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September showdown in the Bronx : Red Sox vs. Yankees (Live Thread)
NY Daily News ^ | September 17, 2004 | Mike Lupica

Posted on 09/17/2004 8:27:59 AM PDT by presidio9

This is the kind of September we are supposed to have with the Yankees and the Red Sox. This is the way it is supposed to be, a series like this at the Stadium this weekend, then another one next weekend at Fenway Park. It wasn't supposed to be as easy as the Red Sox made it look in April. It wasn't supposed to be the kind of knockout punch the Yankees threw at Boston at the end of June, that three-game series when Derek Jeter, in addition to everything else, seemed to have taught himself how to fly.

It wasn't supposed to be the Yankees ahead by 10-1/2 games in August, as giddy as that made everybody around here feel, when the Red Sox were declared dead, and gone, again.

This, tonight at the Stadium, is the way it is supposed to be:

El Duque Hernandez with the ball in the top of the first tonight, trying to kick his leg to the upper deck and duck his head behind his shoulder and throw one of those breaking balls that starts out by Ruppert Place past Johnny Damon of the Red Sox.

Maybe last year isn't as good as the Yankees vs. the Red Sox could ever be. Because after everything that has happened between Game 7 last October and now, the sides are still even.

"A showdown in the Bronx," is the way Damon described this series the other night.

It is all of that.

It is not the kind of all-in, knockout baseball it used to be in the old days, the way it was in September of 1978, when it was the Yankees trying to come from way back in the pack. Barring a total collapse by the Red Sox - and it is hard to see them collapsing after the kind of good, clean hardball they have played lately - you can almost book both teams making the playoffs.

So no matter which of these two teams wins the American League East, it looks as if we will be right where we were a year ago after the regular season, hoping to get both of them through the first round, and into another series with a trip to the World Series on the line. Where it will be all-in, knockout baseball. Where everything could come down to one swing of the bat, the way it did with Aaron Boone, on the night when he finally ended the greatest Yankee-Red Sox season of them all.

But you have to know this: The Yankees don't want to blow the biggest regular-season lead they have ever blown. The Yankees do not want the Red Sox to come back from 10-1/2 behind on the 15th of August to win the AL East, whether they know they've got the safety net of the wild card or not. Because in their minds, they would be carried into October on a stretcher.

For now, we get these six games, starting with the ball in El Duque's hand tonight. Where would the Yankees be without him? Second place, is where. The big fat lead would be gone already. Alex Rodriguez was supposed to be the difference between the Yankees and the Red Sox this season. We've got him, Yankee fans crowed. They don't. That was the first time the season was declared over, back in February, when it was announced that the Yankees had made a deal with the Rangers for A-Rod.

Only he has not been the difference. Somehow, even as he has hung up fairly gaudy numbers, even with the richest contract in the history of sports, A-Rod has just been one of the stars on the Yankees this season. Just not the biggest. The Yankees are still ahead because Gary Sheffield has been the kind of batting star A-Rod was supposed to be. And because El Duque, with all his spin and mystery intact at whatever age he really is, remains one of the great big-game Yankee pitchers of them all.

Now he gets the biggest game he has had in a while, at least until he gets to the playoffs.

"[The Red Sox] are still trying to catch us," Derek Jeter said.

Only for about 900 years.

But for now, the two teams are as close as they could be. In the last two seasons, counting the 2003 postseason, the Yankees and Red Sox have played 39 games. Thirty-nine. The Red Sox have won 20 and the Yankees have won 19. All those games, and really only one swing from Boone separating them.

The Red Sox don't go away. They made their run and now the Yankees have won eight of their last 10. There is a great wild-card race in the National League East. But this is something different. This is the Yankees against the Red Sox. The season started with all those games between them in April. Now here we are again, 11 months, exactly, from Aaron Boone.

Curt Schilling is with the Red Sox now, Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte are gone from the Yankees. Nomar Garciaparra is gone from the Red Sox. The Red Sox tried to cut Manny Ramirez of Washington Heights to get A-Rod and now Ramirez might be MVP. The Yankees got A-Rod. We get the September we wanted. It is the September we always want. Somehow, the sides are still even.


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To: NYCVirago

Two awesome pitching performances from the Yankees against the team with the best OPS in all of baseball. I'm glad I didn't waste 3 hours of my life watching today's big, steaming pile of Rather. Yea errands! I can't wait until the playoffs. It will be awesome if each of us takes care of business in the 1st round.


481 posted on 09/18/2004 3:30:25 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: #1CTYankee
That's right! The Yankee's "closer"has been anything but that against the Sox for the last two yrs.

I seem to remember Mariano shutting the BoSox down for three innings in Game 7 of the ALCS.

Let the games begin, George has got to be steamed after spending a hundred and seventy or eighty million for a team that sucks!

Yeah, the Yankees really stunk up the joint today, didn't they? ;)

482 posted on 09/18/2004 4:00:27 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Two awesome pitching performances from the Yankees against the team with the best OPS in all of baseball. I'm glad I didn't waste 3 hours of my life watching today's big, steaming pile of Rather. Yea errands! I can't wait until the playoffs. It will be awesome if each of us takes care of business in the 1st round.

Who would have thought Sturtze and Lieber would step up like that? I sure didn't. If it weren't for Mariano (and Lofton), the Yanks would be up 2-0 this weekend.

And somebody on the Red Sox should tell Bronson Arroyo to shut up. He said this last night: ``Without question, it was definitely a blow to their ego,'' Boston pitcher Bronson Arroyo said. ``We start getting a little closer, they start doubting themselves a little bit more.''

I think there will be another Yankees-Red Sox ALCS series, with a special guest star by the name of John Kerry making an appearance. At least we can all be united here in booing him!

483 posted on 09/18/2004 4:07:01 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: ElTianti
SOX WIN!
SOX WIN!
SOX WIN!

YANKESS SUCK!
YANKESS SUCK!
YAHKEES SUCK!

TWO GAMES! (IN THE LOSS COLUMN)
TWO GAMES! (IN THE LOSS COLUMN)
TWO GAMES! (IN THE LOSS COLUMN)

Hi, just getting back to this thread after a prolonged absence. So, how did the rest of that Series go?

484 posted on 09/21/2004 6:35:04 AM PDT by presidio9 (BOSTON SUCKS!!!)
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To: torchthemummy

Note to dumbass Sox fan: You can't win every argument be calling people liberals.


PS: 1918!


485 posted on 09/21/2004 6:36:37 AM PDT by presidio9 (BOSTON SUCKS!!!)
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To: AmericanMade1776
You know what I love about being a Red Sox fan, you just never know what they are going to do...they keep you on the edge of your bleacher seat, and are always exciting. When you think they are going to lose, they win, and when you think they are going to win, they lose.

Except when it really matters.

Then you can be pretty sure they'll lose.

486 posted on 09/21/2004 6:37:41 AM PDT by presidio9 (BOSTON SUCKS!!!)
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To: presidio9

He walked into that one. I've learned to limit my hubris in victory.


487 posted on 09/21/2004 1:12:15 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: NYCVirago; GraniteStateConservative

Anybody want to be that Rivera blows three saves in on season to the same team? He has a ridiculous 45 blown saves in 581 career appearances.


488 posted on 09/21/2004 1:19:46 PM PDT by presidio9 (BOSTON SUCKS!!!)
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To: presidio9

From here on out, his appearances against us won't be save opportunities-- we'll be up more than 3 runs in every game!

: )


489 posted on 09/21/2004 1:41:02 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: presidio9

One hundred years. That's my motto. No world championchip for the Red Sox for one hundred years. After 2018, I'll let up a little. Hey, we've only got 14 more years to go. My prediction? Red Sox lose to the Angels, Yanks beat Minnesota and the Los Angeles Angels (a little Dean Chance retro here) and face the Cards in the World Series. Failing that, I could live with Angels-Dodgers. Put me in, coach, I ready to play. Football can wait, there's nothing like October baseball. But , great Jehovah, may the Red Sox fall on their faces.


490 posted on 10/04/2004 11:07:54 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: presidio9

One hundred years. That's my motto. No world championchip for the Red Sox for one hundred years. After 2018, I'll let up a little. Hey, we've only got 14 more years to go. My prediction? Red Sox lose to the Angels, Yanks beat Minnesota and the Los Angeles Angels (a little Dean Chance retro here) and face the Cards in the World Series. Failing that, I could live with Angels-Dodgers. Put me in, coach, I ready to play. Football can wait, there's nothing like October baseball. But , great Jehovah, may the Red Sox fall on their faces.


491 posted on 10/04/2004 11:08:37 PM PDT by fhayek
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