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September showdown in the Bronx : Red Sox vs. Yankees (Live Thread)
NY Daily News ^ | September 17, 2004 | Mike Lupica

Posted on 09/17/2004 8:27:59 AM PDT by presidio9

This is the kind of September we are supposed to have with the Yankees and the Red Sox. This is the way it is supposed to be, a series like this at the Stadium this weekend, then another one next weekend at Fenway Park. It wasn't supposed to be as easy as the Red Sox made it look in April. It wasn't supposed to be the kind of knockout punch the Yankees threw at Boston at the end of June, that three-game series when Derek Jeter, in addition to everything else, seemed to have taught himself how to fly.

It wasn't supposed to be the Yankees ahead by 10-1/2 games in August, as giddy as that made everybody around here feel, when the Red Sox were declared dead, and gone, again.

This, tonight at the Stadium, is the way it is supposed to be:

El Duque Hernandez with the ball in the top of the first tonight, trying to kick his leg to the upper deck and duck his head behind his shoulder and throw one of those breaking balls that starts out by Ruppert Place past Johnny Damon of the Red Sox.

Maybe last year isn't as good as the Yankees vs. the Red Sox could ever be. Because after everything that has happened between Game 7 last October and now, the sides are still even.

"A showdown in the Bronx," is the way Damon described this series the other night.

It is all of that.

It is not the kind of all-in, knockout baseball it used to be in the old days, the way it was in September of 1978, when it was the Yankees trying to come from way back in the pack. Barring a total collapse by the Red Sox - and it is hard to see them collapsing after the kind of good, clean hardball they have played lately - you can almost book both teams making the playoffs.

So no matter which of these two teams wins the American League East, it looks as if we will be right where we were a year ago after the regular season, hoping to get both of them through the first round, and into another series with a trip to the World Series on the line. Where it will be all-in, knockout baseball. Where everything could come down to one swing of the bat, the way it did with Aaron Boone, on the night when he finally ended the greatest Yankee-Red Sox season of them all.

But you have to know this: The Yankees don't want to blow the biggest regular-season lead they have ever blown. The Yankees do not want the Red Sox to come back from 10-1/2 behind on the 15th of August to win the AL East, whether they know they've got the safety net of the wild card or not. Because in their minds, they would be carried into October on a stretcher.

For now, we get these six games, starting with the ball in El Duque's hand tonight. Where would the Yankees be without him? Second place, is where. The big fat lead would be gone already. Alex Rodriguez was supposed to be the difference between the Yankees and the Red Sox this season. We've got him, Yankee fans crowed. They don't. That was the first time the season was declared over, back in February, when it was announced that the Yankees had made a deal with the Rangers for A-Rod.

Only he has not been the difference. Somehow, even as he has hung up fairly gaudy numbers, even with the richest contract in the history of sports, A-Rod has just been one of the stars on the Yankees this season. Just not the biggest. The Yankees are still ahead because Gary Sheffield has been the kind of batting star A-Rod was supposed to be. And because El Duque, with all his spin and mystery intact at whatever age he really is, remains one of the great big-game Yankee pitchers of them all.

Now he gets the biggest game he has had in a while, at least until he gets to the playoffs.

"[The Red Sox] are still trying to catch us," Derek Jeter said.

Only for about 900 years.

But for now, the two teams are as close as they could be. In the last two seasons, counting the 2003 postseason, the Yankees and Red Sox have played 39 games. Thirty-nine. The Red Sox have won 20 and the Yankees have won 19. All those games, and really only one swing from Boone separating them.

The Red Sox don't go away. They made their run and now the Yankees have won eight of their last 10. There is a great wild-card race in the National League East. But this is something different. This is the Yankees against the Red Sox. The season started with all those games between them in April. Now here we are again, 11 months, exactly, from Aaron Boone.

Curt Schilling is with the Red Sox now, Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte are gone from the Yankees. Nomar Garciaparra is gone from the Red Sox. The Red Sox tried to cut Manny Ramirez of Washington Heights to get A-Rod and now Ramirez might be MVP. The Yankees got A-Rod. We get the September we wanted. It is the September we always want. Somehow, the sides are still even.


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To: NYCVirago

No, I meant Matsui's bloop single special talent.


421 posted on 09/17/2004 8:49:20 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: All

Oh great, Giambi's up. Another easy out for the Red Sox. :(


422 posted on 09/17/2004 8:49:24 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: lavrenti

Giambimbo. I smell drama.


423 posted on 09/17/2004 8:49:28 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Semper911
Have you noticed there just arn't any spectacular centerfielders in the game any more? Rocco Baldelli has a chance to be one, too bad he is on the D-Rays.

Is it just me, or does Baldelli look like Cashman's twin?

424 posted on 09/17/2004 8:49:54 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: GraniteStateConservative
No, I meant Matsui's bloop single special talent.

I stand corrected.

425 posted on 09/17/2004 8:50:27 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: Semper911

I don't believe in curses or jinx. This is our best team in this situation. Either we sack up and end this or we John F'en Kerry up.


426 posted on 09/17/2004 8:50:39 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: NYCVirago

I feel bad for Giambi. He is a shell of what he used to be. Poor guy.


427 posted on 09/17/2004 8:50:44 PM PDT by Semper911 (I am Semper911, and I approved this message.)
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To: Semper911

2 down.


428 posted on 09/17/2004 8:51:00 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: F16Fighter

You smell whiff.


429 posted on 09/17/2004 8:51:03 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Rather Lied, MSM Died! Long live FreeRepublic and the Blogs!)
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To: jwalsh07

Feel the breeze, John?


430 posted on 09/17/2004 8:51:37 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: NYCVirago
does Baldelli look like Cashman's twin?

Good call.

431 posted on 09/17/2004 8:51:40 PM PDT by Semper911 (I am Semper911, and I approved this message.)
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To: Living Free in NH
----- from a year ago -----

MIDI - LODI - look under Creedence Clearwater

It was three years ago...New Yorkers had cast their vote
That is when bad luck started...historians will note
Your Yankees won't win again...she brought bad karma, you see
It is The Curse of Hillary

She's from the depths of hell...the FReepers were warning you
She is an evil presence...what are you gonna do
Your Yankees won't win again...she brought bad karma, you see
It is The Curse of Hillary

Cubbie fans fought the goat...it just wouldn't go away
Bronx Bombers have been reeling...they don't know what to say
Your Yankees won't win again...she brought bad karma, you see
It is The Curse of Hillary

Year after year you'll find...your team will be going down
There is but one solution...to banish her from town
Your Yankees won't win again...she brought bad karma, you see
It is The Curse of Hillary...it is The Curse of Hillary

432 posted on 09/17/2004 8:52:00 PM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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To: Semper911
I feel bad for Giambi. He is a shell of what he used to be. Poor guy.

Yep. It's hard to believe that he used to be known for his good eye, now that he's striking out so much and hitting so poorly.

433 posted on 09/17/2004 8:52:06 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: F16Fighter
Giambi regressed to No Contact. And he was making such progress .....

Okay I admit to being damn nervous now -- C'MON KEITH!

434 posted on 09/17/2004 8:52:13 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("The common man doesn't look at me as some rich witch." --Teresa Heinz Kerry)
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To: Semper911

RED SOX WIN!


435 posted on 09/17/2004 8:53:20 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Red Sox Win!
436 posted on 09/17/2004 8:53:22 PM PDT by Semper911 (I am Semper911, and I approved this message.)
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To: F16Fighter

I don't get too worked up about games in September. Its October I'm worried about, MD ain't closing.


437 posted on 09/17/2004 8:53:33 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Rather Lied, MSM Died! Long live FreeRepublic and the Blogs!)
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To: doug from upland

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA The Curse of Hillary strikes again!


438 posted on 09/17/2004 8:53:35 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (John Kerry is still facing pajama-clad warriors, and receiving self-inflicted wounds...)
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To: NYCVirago

Horrible loss.


439 posted on 09/17/2004 8:53:41 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Had 'em all the way ..........


440 posted on 09/17/2004 8:53:57 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("The common man doesn't look at me as some rich witch." --Teresa Heinz Kerry)
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