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So it begins. The citizens trying to protect their property and their country have become enemies of the state. Illegal aliens have become a protected class free to trash and harass private property and its owners.

SO MUCH FOR BUSH'S "OWNERSHIP SOCIETY".

I GUESS RANCHES ONLY IN CRAWFORD TEXAS ARE PRIVATE PROPERTY.

1 posted on 09/16/2004 10:16:04 PM PDT by Conservative Firster
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Hate to say it, this is the one thing that forces me to hold my nose while voting for Bush. I love everything else about him, but immigration drives me bonkers. I pray that he takes a turn to the right after being reelected.


2 posted on 09/16/2004 10:18:08 PM PDT by Crazieman (Hanoi John Effin Kerry. War Criminal. Traitor. Democrat.)
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hmmm... I think you mistook this place for the Liberty Post.


3 posted on 09/16/2004 10:18:19 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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6 posted on 09/16/2004 10:22:12 PM PDT by gubamyster
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You misread the fine print that said it was an ownership society for Mexico.


9 posted on 09/16/2004 10:25:42 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (The Convention convinced me. 4 MORE YEARS!!!!!!)
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Same garbage used to justify Waco and the latter shootings in Idaho. The Border Patrol doesn't. They can id. and confront a US citizen but they can not perform their real job of (see their name). If its because of politics, funding etc. that can be straightened out if they holler loud enough. Rating out US citizens to the FBI is not hollerin.
10 posted on 09/16/2004 10:27:40 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (I volunteer to instruct JFK on the meaning of a purple heart!!)
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I'm not going to assume the government was the bad guy in this mess. Although I appreciate what the militias in southern AZ are trying to accomplish, they have to be careful they don't turn into vigilante organizations. Let's wait for the facts -- we turn into DU-style blame America firsters.


12 posted on 09/16/2004 10:33:02 PM PDT by inkling
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Interesting how the Mexican drug cartels can pretty much do as they please -- the other week some Mexicans came over and executed a guy at a Whattaburger and the FBI nor police can do anything about it. An American protecting private property though -- and they'll be there right away.


13 posted on 09/16/2004 10:33:17 PM PDT by FITZ
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This is incredible. The FBI attacking people defending their property from criminal alians. I'm supporting Bush because Kerry is even worse. We need to mount an intense campaign to put pressure on Bush to do somthing about the border. The present situation is disgraceful.


16 posted on 09/16/2004 10:39:38 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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I'm sick to my stomach.

A migrant's rights organization has just triumphed over a private property owner, and the people he asked to help him protect his land.

This can't be allowed to continue.

My prayers to the families involved. Very sorry for your loss.


20 posted on 09/16/2004 10:57:49 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (I've had all I can stands.....and I can't stands no more.)
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Depends on what "heavily armed" means. If they're a wacko militia group then I have no sympathy, however if they're merely a group of ranchers out to protect their own private property from illegals then more power to them. When the government opens the borders and gives illegals more rights than citizens, then it's up to the people to protect their own.


21 posted on 09/16/2004 10:58:08 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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According to the warrant, Nethercott refused to pull over for Border Patrol agents on Aug. 31. After a slow-speed chase, the warrant said that Nethercott entered "a compound in Douglas occupied by members of Ranch Rescue." Riddle was identified as one of the people there.

What reason and/or authority would the Border Patrol have to pull over an American citizen. Was he illegally crossing the border?

It sounds like the Border Patrol was acting as local cops.

30 posted on 09/16/2004 11:22:50 PM PDT by niki
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This isn't agood idea right now... AT ALL!!


33 posted on 09/16/2004 11:30:10 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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Is this Bush's doing??


34 posted on 09/16/2004 11:30:59 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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KERRY'S ONLY POSITION
THAT HE HAS NEVER
FLIP FLOPED ON
TRAITOR THEN
TRAITOR NOW


READ THIS INTERVIEW THAT KERRY GAVE in 1970
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Published on Wednesday, February 18, 1970
John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for Congress

By SAMUEL Z. GOLDHABER

Crimson Staff Writer

"...One time Kerry was ordered to destroy a Viet Cong village
but disobeyed orders and suggested that the Navy Command
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35 posted on 09/16/2004 11:31:36 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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So typical of the FBI/F Troop, that they:

**won't release information about the patient's condition;

**won't release the name of the shooter;

**will release negative information about the person they shot.

37 posted on 09/16/2004 11:34:04 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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The problem with cases like this, is that the FBI has so discredited themselves, that it is nearly impossible to believe a word they say.

At Waco they stated, "We never fired a shot after we took over from the BATF." The only way that would be true is if they brought in special forces to fire the automatic weapons that were fired into the rear of the farmhouse as it went up in flames.

Once again they stated that there were no guns on the helicopters. Once they were revealed to be lying about that, they admitted that there were guns, but not mounted guns.

The BATF obtained the use of military helicopters and tanks by lying about there being drugs at the Waco farmhouse.

It was stated that no grenades were used at the farmhouse. It was also stated that the FBI did not start the fire that burned the building down. The problem is, two shock grenades were found in the areas where the fires started. Those grenades are known to cause fires.

The FBI testified that shock grenades are not lethal, before Congress. That was shown to be a lie as well.

I grew up reading stories about the FBI, idolizing their members as much as I did baseball players. I had a natural desire to respect them, because my father 1500 miles away was a law enforcement officer. It took a lot to get me to change my mind. Ruby Ridge, TWA 800 and Waco did it for me. I will never trust them again.

Reagan used to say trust but verify. In the case of the FBI, I now say, don't trust, and verify everything. I rather be alive than dead right.


39 posted on 09/16/2004 11:47:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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Nethercott, 37, has a criminal record. He was convicted of assault with a firearm in California and was on parole when he joined Ranch Rescue.

IN CAL, THIS COULD MEAN HE WAS DEFENDING HIMSELF.

In June, he was also found guilty by a Texas jury of felony firearm possession.

SO MUCH FOR THE SECOND AMENDMENT.

The jury was deadlocked on a second charge that accused Nethercott of pistol-whipping an illegal immigrant near a Texas ranch.

THE ILLEGAL IS LUCKY HE WAS STILL BREATHING.

Here we go. Da Fuerher taking out more patriots when they only try to do what the government refuses to do.

Our government could not give a rat's behind about homeland terror, the sovereignty of our nation or the Constitution. It's all a smokescreen.

Let the baby butchers pratice their deadly craft, and shoot some more innocent civilians. After the feds make up their story about why they shot this person, I'd sure like to hear it.

45 posted on 09/16/2004 11:57:22 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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Wow is this backwards. Instead of the Feds trying to stop a flood of illegals crossing the border, they are going after people trying to protect propert of law abiding citizens being overrun by illegals.

I guess this is all stating the obvious. So sad. Bush is doing nothing about this.


50 posted on 09/17/2004 12:05:42 AM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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This is wrong!


57 posted on 09/17/2004 12:37:44 AM PDT by MistyCA
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Change your diaper.


68 posted on 09/17/2004 2:10:46 AM PDT by Barlowmaker
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