Posted on 09/16/2004 10:16:04 PM PDT by Conservative Firster
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An FBI agent shot an acquaintance of a border watch group member while trying to serve an arrest warrant, FBI officials said Thursday.
The shooting happened about 11:15 p.m. Wednesday in a grocery store parking lot in Douglas along the southeastern Arizona border with Mexico.
According to the FBI, the agent was trying to serve an arrest warrant on Casey Nethercott of Douglas. Nethercott is a known member of Ranch Rescue, a group that works to protect private property along the southern U.S. border.
Ranch Rescue and several other unauthorized groups have been patrolling along the border looking for illegal immigrants, raising concerns among migrants rights groups about potential abuses.
At the time, Nethercott was with 22-year-old Kalen Riddle, also of Douglas.
Charlene Thornton, special agent in charge of the Phoenix FBI office, said that "actions taken by Nethercott and Riddle led one of the FBI agents to fire his weapon."
The FBI would not elaborate and said it won't release the name of the agent who fired the shot, in keeping with FBI policy.
Riddle was airlifted to a Tucson hospital, but FBI officials did not know his condition.
Nethercott was arrested Wednesday and is in federal custody. An FBI spokeswoman confirmed agents searched Nethercott's Douglas ranch on Thursday afternoon.
The warrant the FBI was trying to serve alleges that Nethercott threatened Border Patrol agents.
According to the warrant, Nethercott refused to pull over for Border Patrol agents on Aug. 31. After a slow-speed chase, the warrant said that Nethercott entered "a compound in Douglas occupied by members of Ranch Rescue." Riddle was identified as one of the people there.
Agents said the Ranch Rescue members were heavily armed and had night vision equipment.
After Border Patrol agents yelled for Nethercott to show his hands, the affidavit says Nethercott refused, and responded:
"I'm going to take care of this myself, we're going to have a shootout."
The affidavit does not say how the standoff ended.
There was no listing for Riddle in Douglas. A phone message left Thursday at a residence listed for Nethercott was not returned.
Nethercott, 37, has a criminal record. He was convicted of assault with a firearm in California and was on parole when he joined Ranch Rescue.
In June, he was also found guilty by a Texas jury of felony firearm possession. The jury was deadlocked on a second charge that accused Nethercott of pistol-whipping an illegal immigrant near a Texas ranch.
Douglas rancher Roger Barnett, who is not part of Ranch Rescue, supports the measures Nethercott took to stop illegal immigration.
He compared the shooting of Riddle to Branch Davidians, who fought federal agents in Waco, Texas.
"Citizens have to get out and protect themselves," Barnett said. "And this is what it leads to."
Please note that the BORDER PATROL attempted to pull over Nethercott, the victim was at the ranch and is named Riddl(ed now). Based on the BP statements, "According to the warrant, Nethercott refused to pull over for Border Patrol agents on Aug. 31. After a slow-speed chase, the warrant said that Nethercott entered "a compound in Douglas occupied by members of Ranch Rescue." Riddle was identified as one of the people there." Now follow the ball and related to Nethercott. Remember, the other was Riddl(ed)after the BP got the FBI to serve the arrest warrant. Before the confrontation: 1.) Please give me a citation where it says a citizen, Nethercott, has to stop when told to do so by a Federal Agent, the Border Patrol. (The illegals don't and if they do, they aren't arrested.) 2.) Please cite the section of law that says the BP had a right to perform an attempted Felony Car Stop, in order to ? (not stated)
Clue, we were not dealing with an arrest warrant at the time the BP attempted to pull over Nethercott.
I refuse to play this game with you.
Please note that the article also says that Riddl(ed) was taken to the hospital. Nethercott was arrested. It is not stated that Riddl(ed) was arrested, WHY?
Riddl(ed) may have been reaching to "scratch his ..." but the article doesn't say. It doesn't mention any gun with respect to Riddl(ed). The group may have been heavily armed, but was Riddl(ed)? If there is a PR, then it should have stated something to the effect of (select a few):
a. He reached for a firearm.
b. He reached for a loaded firearm (as opposed to supposing it was loaded)
c. Riddl(ed) was armed.
d. Riddl(ed) was arrested for ...
Well what are the FACTS? Not stated. Yes, there is a presumption in law that Agents are presumed to be doing their duty; but that is all they have going for them in this article. There is an absence of fact.
Instead of writing in red why not just read. Remember, they are not called Famous But Incompetant for nothing.
No game & no basis for your position. Case closed
Link to anything negative I've ever said about the Border Patrol Agents or shut up, you liar.
You're doing one heck of a job. It appears some texas flowers have thorns! Good for you.
And some Texas flowers just stink up the place.
Some do...she's a breath of fresh air however.
As you wish.
Although I am very flattered by all of this attention from you, there is one thing that you do not seem to understand.
You, and your positions are not interesting enough to me to warrant researching your previous posts.
This is a fun game. How long are we going to play?
Thank you kind sir. :)
I know that home ownership by ILLEGAL aliens is not germane on this current thread.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/972485/posts?q=1&&page=1
But this old thread contains a column by Michelle Malkin with very useful info. Get this
"The Denver metro area alone accounted for 20,000 to 40,000 of the FHA-approved loans for suspected illegal aliens. 'Even if a small percentage of the loans were foreclosed, HUD could be bankrupted,' the homeland security official said. . .
"A spokeswoman for the U.S. General Accounting Office told me this week that the agency's office of special investigations plans to report on the results of the probe later this fall. But 'considering the size of Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Houston, and other large cities throughout the United States known to be inundated with illegal aliens,' says my source, 'I don't think the federal government is willing to expose this problem for financial reasons as well as for fear of political repercussions.'" [End excerpt]
You see, Federal Housing Administration-approved loans through the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development do not require lenders to obtain proof of citizenship or legal permanent residence. These FHA/HUD programs, primarily targeting minorities and first-time homebuyers, are federally insured and require minimal down payments.
Throw in USDA's rural housing programs, too.
On second thought, Ms Malkin's column is germane to this thread.
HUD could be bankrupted?! The federal government is NOT willing to expose this problem for financial reasons as well as for fear of political repercussions?!
Folks, the Border Patrol is superfluous. Those who support its mission to protect the borders are enemies of the state's economic wellbeing. Assume the French troops' position. Stick a fork in us. . . .
It's not just "cheap" labor and votes.
Link, please.
I'm "sick and tired" of your lies.
Ranch Rescue operates on private property with full permission and support from the property owners. I believe that would make these groups, oh i dont know, AUTHORIZED!
/grumble..grumble...idiot journalist...grumbles
They have been doing reports on Soldier Of Fortune. They use fully legal, semiauto, AR-15's.
If all the illegal aliens are allowed to stay, our whole country will be bankrupted.
We're almost $50 trillion dollars in debt as a Nation, now.
Hi darling. I was missing you.
Let's try this again. I'm not interested, but this is really a great game.
What time will you be going to bed? That way I don't get my feelings hurt when I don't hear from you for like 20 minutes.
Kiss, Kiss.
Link please or shut up, liar.
Why don't you stop talking to me then darling? I wouldn't enjoy being mocked like this.
Why are you letting me do it to you?
Why don't you just stay over there on the Nazi thread about these two fine young men?
But, if you just can't stop thinking of me, then I'll talk to you a little later.
Kisses.
Good point. Ruby Ridge happened under GHW Bush.
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