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BREAKING!!! Democratic LINK to FORGED MEMOS
self ^ | Sept 16 2004 | DCBurgess58

Posted on 09/16/2004 8:49:48 PM PDT by DCBurgess58

The Taylor County Democratic Party has potentially been linked to the fraudulent Bush documents aired on 60 Minutes!!


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: busted; fraud; killian; kinkos; liar; rather; rathergate
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To: Publius6961
The fax that landed on Dan Rather's desk was faxed and marked with that location. We got to stop beating that dead horse.

So? Anyone could have programmed that phone number into their fax machine.

If someone could type up a page in Time New Roman 12 (no need for an exact copy of the documents; a page full of 'quick brown fox' etc. (upper and lower case, plus digits 0-9) would suffice) and fax it from that Kinko's to themselvees, capturing the result in pixel-perfect format, I'd be interested in seeing it. Faxing and scanning can lose a lot of information, but can also sometimes preserve more than may be apparent.

Different fax machines will distort different images differently. Given an faxed output from the Kinko's machine for comparison, it may be possible to determine whether or not the Kinko's machine represented the first faxed generation of these documents (if the machine has 'photo mode' and 'normal mode' send once with each).

121 posted on 09/17/2004 6:40:58 PM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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122 posted on 09/17/2004 6:51:32 PM PDT by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free)
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To: supercat
I know for sure that if faxed in "normal" resolution these documents would look very different, dots would be visible. Faxed in "high" resolution, I still think dots would be visible.

There are many creative ways to "munge" documents in a copier if you wish. Think about placing a dirty transparency on the copier first and then the document. Think about then crumpling the first generation copy and sort of smoothing it out before recopying. Not to mention the distorting effects of plain clear water & a dry-out before making another copy.

123 posted on 09/17/2004 7:58:52 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave
There are many creative ways to "munge" documents in a copier if you wish. Think about placing a dirty transparency on the copier first and then the document. Think about then crumpling the first generation copy and sort of smoothing it out before recopying. Not to mention the distorting effects of plain clear water & a dry-out before making another copy.

None of those ways would introduce some of the specific types of distortion that are present in the documents. They were clearly faxed, and I'd like to see a pixel-perfect sample of a real page sent from that Kinko's to see if the first-generation fax was produced there.

124 posted on 09/18/2004 11:31:54 AM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: supercat
After printing one of the documents, I have to agree with you that they appear to have been faxed at high resolution.

The .pdf files will have all of the distortions of the fax machine plus the distortions of the scanner CBS used to produce the .pdf files.

Of course the other possibility is that they were faxed directly from a computer...

125 posted on 09/18/2004 1:20:04 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave
Of course the other possibility is that they were faxed directly from a computer...

I'm pretty sure that was not done. If the faxes were sent via computer, TrueType "hinting" would have avoided aliasing problems without creating the weird artifacts observed on the fax. And since such artifacts would only have been created at the first fax generation, I'm pretty sure the documents weren't faxed directly from a computer.

126 posted on 09/18/2004 2:32:39 PM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: Eva; DCBurgess58
He says that a partisan connection is the only reason that he can see for Dan Rather to be stonewalling this.

Yes, or a connection to his daughter. Father's are very protective.

127 posted on 09/18/2004 11:30:26 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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To: ArmyBratproud

That's great.


128 posted on 09/18/2004 11:31:00 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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To: willyboyishere
This virtually proves the memos are forged, and were stupidly brought out precisely to get the "issues" therein discussed.

Totally true.

129 posted on 09/18/2004 11:32:47 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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To: DCBurgess58; TLBSHOW

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130 posted on 09/18/2004 11:33:05 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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