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Drudge - Judge orders government to find, release all Bush military records...
Drudge Report ^ | 9/16/04 | MATT KELLEY

Posted on 09/16/2004 1:52:12 PM PDT by Spackidagoosh

Edited on 09/16/2004 2:17:33 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON - A federal judge has ordered the Pentagon (news - web sites) to find and make public by next week any unreleased files about President Bush (news - web sites)'s Vietnam-era Air National Guard service to resolve a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by The Associated Press.

U.S. District Judge Harold Baer Jr. handed down the order late Wednesday in New York. The AP lawsuit already has led to the disclosure of previously unreleased flight logs from Bush's days piloting F-102A fighters and other jets.

Pentagon officials told Baer they plan to have their search complete by Monday. Baer ordered the Pentagon to hand over the records to the AP by Sept. 24 and provide a written statement by Sept. 29 detailing the search for more records.

"We're hopeful the Department of Defense (news - web sites) will provide a full accounting of the steps it has taken, as the judge ordered, so the public can have some assurance that there are no documents being withheld," said AP lawyer David Schulz.

White House officials have said Bush ordered the Pentagon earlier this year to conduct a thorough search for the president's records, and officials allowed reporters to review everything that was gathered back in February.

Through a series of requests under the federal open records law and a subsequent suit, the AP uncovered the flight logs, which were not part of the records the White House released earlier this year.

Both Bush's and John Kerry (news - web sites)'s service records in Vietnam have become a major issue in the presidential race. New records that have surfaced in recent weeks have raised more questions.

Bush's critics say Bush got preferential treatment as the son of a congressman and U.N. ambassador. Critics also question why Bush skipped a required medical examination in 1972 and failed to show up for drills during a six-month period that year.

Bush has repeatedly said he fulfilled all of his Air National Guard obligations.

The future president joined the Texas Air National Guard in 1968, when he graduated from Yale. He spent more than a year on active duty learning how to fly and then mostly flew in the one-seat F-102A fighters until April 1972.

The pilot logs show a shift to flights in two-seat trainer jets in March 1972, shortly before Bush quit flying. Former Air National Guard officials say that could have been because F-102A jets were not available for Bush to fly or because of other reasons, such as concerns about Bush's flight performance.

Bush skipped his required yearly medical exam in 1972 in the months after he stopped flying in April. Bush has said he moved to Alabama to work on the unsuccessful Senate campaign of a family friend.

Bush never showed up for Guard service between late April and mid-October 1972. He won approval to train with an Alabama Air National Guard unit during September, October and November 1972, but more than a dozen members of the unit at that time say they never saw him there.

The only direct record of Bush appearing at the Alabama unit's base is a January 1973 dental exam performed at that base. Bush's Texas commanders wrote in May 1973 they never saw him between May 1972 and April 1973, a time when his pay records show he trained on 14 days.

Although military regulations allowed commanders to order two years of active duty for guardsmen who missed more than three straight months of drills, that never happened to Bush. Commanders had leeway at the time to allow guardsmen to make up for missed drills.


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KEYWORDS: gwb2004; haroldbaer; judicialabuse; judicialtyranny; liberaljudgegonewild; militaryrecords; napalminthemorning; tang
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To: Spackidagoosh
Honestly, how hard can this be? Official military records move with a person from station to station and finally come to rest somewhere at headquarters when that person is no longer active. I know exacty where my official military records are. It would take one clerk about five minutes to find them.

There shouldn't be any "official" records scattered anywhere.

21 posted on 09/16/2004 1:56:48 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: XJarhead

This could potentially be a good thing. It will end all the rumors once and for all.


22 posted on 09/16/2004 1:57:11 PM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Spackidagoosh

Full AP story now posted on Drudge.


23 posted on 09/16/2004 1:57:24 PM PDT by hflynn
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To: XJarhead

Why has there been no pressure for the Traitor to release his records. This is UNREAL!!


24 posted on 09/16/2004 1:57:37 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: XJarhead

This does however emphasis that kerry has not signe form 180!


25 posted on 09/16/2004 1:57:39 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! NOV 2, 2004 is VETERANS DAY! VOTE!)
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To: Spackidagoosh



Judge Orders U.S. to Find Bush Records

9 minutes ago

By MATT KELLEY, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - A federal judge has ordered the Pentagon (news - web sites) to find and make public by next week any unreleased files about President Bush (news - web sites)'s Vietnam-era Air National Guard service to resolve a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by The Associated Press.

U.S. District Judge Harold Baer Jr. handed down the order late Wednesday in New York. The AP lawsuit already has led to the disclosure of previously unreleased flight logs from Bush's days piloting F-102A fighters and other jets.


Pentagon officials told Baer they plan to have their search complete by Monday. Baer ordered the Pentagon to hand over the records to the AP by Sept. 24 and provide a written statement by Sept. 29 detailing the search for more records.


"We're hopeful the Department of Defense (news - web sites) will provide a full accounting of the steps it has taken, as the judge ordered, so the public can have some assurance that there are no documents being withheld," said AP lawyer David Schulz.


White House officials have said Bush ordered the Pentagon earlier this year to conduct a thorough search for the president's records, and officials allowed reporters to review everything that was gathered back in February.


Through a series of requests under the federal open records law and a subsequent suit, the AP uncovered the flight logs, which were not part of the records the White House released earlier this year.


Both Bush's and John Kerry (news - web sites)'s service records in Vietnam have become a major issue in the presidential race. New records that have surfaced in recent weeks have raised more questions.

...http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/20040916/ap_on_el_pr/bush_guard_records_1&printer=1

Wonder if someone from our side will put in an FOIA on Kerry?


26 posted on 09/16/2004 1:57:40 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: Kozak

I can only assume he is going to for the release of Kerry's sealed documents from his divorce.

right??

hmm I won't hold my breath


27 posted on 09/16/2004 1:57:44 PM PDT by escapefromboston
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To: Spackidagoosh

Who brought the action that the judge ruled on?

He sure didn't do this in a vacuum waking up this morning and saying, "Golly. I think I'll rule on this."


28 posted on 09/16/2004 1:57:48 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Let me repeat this: the web means never having to swallow leftist garbage again. Got it?)
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To: Spackidagoosh

Why? Who does this judge think he is? And why is he ordering this? Why? Why not Kerry's records?


29 posted on 09/16/2004 1:57:49 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Spackidagoosh
Ahhh...and nothing for Kerry and the lack of his 180?

A leftist modern day Roland Frieseler strikes again.

30 posted on 09/16/2004 1:57:50 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator (I am poster #48)
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To: Spackidagoosh

Liberals judges -- They can order anything they want, including a ham sandwich.


31 posted on 09/16/2004 1:57:59 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: BlessedByLiberty

Thanks.


32 posted on 09/16/2004 1:58:40 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Let me repeat this: the web means never having to swallow leftist garbage again. Got it?)
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To: Spackidagoosh

where do you see that. I do not see that on Drudge?


33 posted on 09/16/2004 1:58:52 PM PDT by JFC
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To: Spackidagoosh

Will this SAME judge order the release of ALL Kerry records? Are Republicans pursuing THIS? If not, WHY not?


34 posted on 09/16/2004 1:58:59 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: aft_lizard

The Pentagon is going to laugh at this.....even if Bush did not sign the 180, there is no way personal military files will be released....just ask Kerry


35 posted on 09/16/2004 1:59:10 PM PDT by mystery-ak (DNC=girlymen)
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To: Elisha_Ben_Abuya

It's not about "fear", unless you mean the fear of losing all right to privacy. Bush has already released his records by signing form 180...Kerry hasn't done so. Wanna take bets as to why?


36 posted on 09/16/2004 1:59:12 PM PDT by Stonedog (Mr. Blather... tear down this STONEWALL!!)
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To: hflynn

Looks like Kerry will have to sign 180 release after this.


37 posted on 09/16/2004 1:59:18 PM PDT by hflynn
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To: Spackidagoosh
"Judge orders government to find, release all Bush military records..."

Hang on just a little longer, judge - Dan Rather can't type that fast.
38 posted on 09/16/2004 1:59:20 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Conservatism begins at home. Security begins at the border. Please, someone, secure our borders.)
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To: Spackidagoosh

A judge ordering the government? Let's see...the 9th circuit? What a load of fecal matter.


39 posted on 09/16/2004 1:59:20 PM PDT by AZamericonnie (47 more days.....to the end of the madness! (I hope))
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To: Spackidagoosh

No big deal. They have released everything.

The big deal is that Drudge posted the link to the artcle about Navy saying Kerry hasn't released all his records.


40 posted on 09/16/2004 1:59:21 PM PDT by Republican Red (We're going to win one for the gipper...they're going to lose one for the flipper)
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