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Ex-staffer: Bush records are fakes
The Houston Chronicle ^ | Sept. 15, 2005 | Robert Crowe and Julie Mason

Posted on 09/16/2004 11:41:31 AM PDT by libstripper

A former secretary at Ellington Air Force Base is challenging the legitimacy of documents used to discredit President Bush's service in the Texas Air National Guard, saying the records are probably fake because she never typed them.

Marian Carr Knox, 86, former secretary to Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, worked at the Houston air base from 1956 to 1979. She is now retired.

"They're forgeries as far as I'm concerned because I didn't type them," Knox said Tuesday at her southwest Houston home.

She said she typed all of Killian's memoranda and office letters during the time Bush served under him in the early 1970s.

Knox said the subject matter in the documents does, however, reflect sentiments Killian expressed to her at the time.

"I did not type those, no, but the information in them is correct," she said.

A longtime Democratic primary voter, Knox said she is not a Bush political supporter.

Hers are the latest claims against the documents, which for several days have been at the center of a tantalizing political mystery within the presidential campaign.

CBS News used documents purportedly written and signed by Killian, Bush's former superior at Ellington, as the basis for a critical report on Bush's guard service in the early 1970s.

Specifically, the documents allege that Bush failed to take a required physical examination and lost his flying privileges. The papers indicate Killian was pressured to "sugarcoat" Bush's record.

Though Bush never took his physical and was honorably discharged, Knox said it was rare for pilots like him to not take physicals under similar circumstances.

"Darn right it was a big issue," she said. "That was one of the things the pilots had to do."

Questions about the president's Guard service surfaced during his first campaign for president and again this year, particularly in contrast to Democrat John Kerry's service in the Navy during the Vietnam War.

With regard to the specific allegations surrounding Bush's failure to take the required physical, White House officials have said the requirement was waived when Bush was transferred to non-flying status in Alabama.

Knox said she decided to report her recollection of the time period to the media after hearing White House press officials say the information in the memos was false.

She said the military jargon in the documents would be used in the Navy or Army and not the Air Force. Also, she said the font used for the documents did not match fonts used on either the manual Olympia or IBM Selectric typewriters she used while working there.

Though some have challenged the use of superscript typeface in the documents, Knox said the IBM Selectric typewriter she used when Bush was in the 111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron did have the capability to type in superscript.

Last week, Knox said she had no firsthand knowledge of Bush's time with the Texas Air National Guard, although she did recall a culture of special treatment for the sons of prominent people, such as Bush and others.

Bush's father, former President Bush, was a member of Congress when his son was a Guard pilot.

Generally, Knox said Killian was anxious about creating a paper trail at the Guard base, and kept copies of his correspondence, which he would write out longhand and give her to type.

Killian died in 1984.

In recent days, questions have been raised by members of Killian's family and others, who challenged the authenticity of documents, in part by saying Killian did not keep copies of his letters.

Knox disputed that claim, saying Killian kept copies to protect himself, although she said she did not retain any copies herself.

CBS has declined to identify the source of the documents. The network, which originally aired the claims on the venerable 60 Minutes news magazine, has stood by its reporting.

Knox said last week she had not seen the disputed documents obtained by CBS, butwas reacting to news reports challenging their authenticity, primarily by countering claims that Killian did not keep copies.

robert.crowe@chron.com

julie.mason@chron.com

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bushangrecords; forgeries; mariancarrknox; rathergate
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To: NYer

That's funny... I love creativity..did you make that? LOL


21 posted on 09/16/2004 12:09:51 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: eyespysomething
This looks suspicioiusly like the "memory restoration" treatments that were given to toddlers in the 80's so they could testify in mass ritualistic child sex abuse cases and frame totally innocent child care providers.

This sounds like what happened at the daycare in California. HBO made a movie about it, and your favorite cult leader and mine was supposed to feature this prominently in his defense. I assume this is the "interesting info" you were pinging me to?

22 posted on 09/16/2004 12:16:05 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: libstripper
"Last week, Knox said she had no firsthand knowledge of Bush's time with the Texas Air National Guard, although she did recall a culture of special treatment for the sons of prominent people, such as Bush and others."

A bunch of flop! Or is that flip-flop?
23 posted on 09/16/2004 12:18:07 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: SittinYonder

Nope, and I didn't even catch that. I was referring to this:

"Last week, Knox said she had no firsthand knowledge of Bush's time with the Texas Air National Guard, although she did recall a culture of special treatment for the sons of prominent people, such as Bush and others."

And her interview last night with Blather that she knew all about Lt. Bush at the base. I mean, I heard her say "I feel" "I think" "I believe" so that means its all true and indisputable.

I still can't wrap my head around Blather saying although people questioned the memos, they didn't question the content.

I'm typing up lottery tickets tomorrow night after the drawing here in GA. I mean, as long as the content is true, the rest doesn't matter, right?


24 posted on 09/16/2004 12:38:03 PM PDT by eyespysomething (thinking thinking thinking)
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To: eyespysomething

I would strongly encourage you to crumple those forged lottery tickets, perhaps you should scan them into a computer or copy them on a copier and then fax them to yourself from a Kinkos in Abilene Texas. All of that should give them a sufficient legitimacy for you to receive your winnings because you're right, it's not whether or not the documents were forged, it's whether or not the content is accurate!


25 posted on 09/16/2004 12:44:06 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: Exigence

I bet she had an "in" box where the officers she typed for put the handwritten materials to be typed. Thus, any improper CYA memos to private files would be visible for all to see. Sure recipe for professional suicide.


26 posted on 09/16/2004 12:49:27 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: eyespysomething

"I still can't wrap my head around Blather saying although people questioned the memos, they didn't question the content"


It only means he is a Democrat, careful analysis of almost any speech by Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Kennedy etc. will reveal that not matter what the audience may have thought, they seldom actually say anything that makes sense, hell most of the time they don't actually say anything, they just rattle off words.


27 posted on 09/16/2004 1:29:22 PM PDT by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
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