Posted on 09/16/2004 8:34:43 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
This is third-hand information that I just received from a source in Washington that I trust, and I am sharing this as a vanity-post only for consideration. Don’t ask me for links or other forms of verification, or who my source is, because I won’t tell you. This is only for your consideration, take it or leave it. Put on your tin-foil hats if you want, but I trust the person who told me the following.
What I was told, is that the public has been a victim of a very elaborate media scheme to trap President Bush. CBS knows that the documents they have been using are fakes, and they are trying to make sure that the public, and more importantly, the White House knows that they are fakes, in order to make the White House comfortable with taking a position denying the accusations contained in the phony documents. Other news organizations are participating in this ruse as well; their mission is to attack CBS regarding the fake documents to provide the White House with a false sense of security.
The reason why CBS is sticking with the story, is that they believe they have actual authentic documents which would back up their accusations against the President, but what they don’t know, is that those documents are also forgeries, but much, much better forgeries, which would likely be believed by the general public when authenticated by dozens of experts.
The media does not believe that the accusation on its own would be enough to bring down the President. But combine those accusations with real (looking) documents, AFTER the President has denied those accusations, and the media (and Democrats) believe they would be able to expose Bush as an arrogant liar.
When you hear Dan Rather goading the White House, suggesting that “the longer the accusations go unanswered the truer they become”, understand that the denial is what they are after. This is why they are not concerned about the original forgeries, they are only to bring Bush to respond to the accusations contained; at which point they nail Bush with their (good) forgeries, catching the White House in a supposed lie, and allowing the rest of the media to go after Bush for lying, drug use, and his service with respect to Vietnam.
So when you see the Washington Post, LA Times, NY Times and others excoriating CBS over the phony memos, understand that they are all just playing their role in encouraging Bush to take a strong stance against the forgeries by denying the accusations contained in them outright. They then have Bush on the record in what they hope is a provable lie.
CBS will claim that the original documents were ‘misplaced’ by their owner, but decided to go with the story because they knew that the real (forgeries) documents existed and would be brought forward if (when) they were found. Clearly, Bush would not have these documents in his own records, but the media would only accuse him of destroying his own copies, and not consider that he never had them to begin with.
The media knows how weak John Kerry is, and they know that at this point it would take a cataclysmic event to bring down George W. Bush. So in the absence of this event, they are creating one out of whole cloth. “Lying, cheating, drug user” would be their message for the rest of the election cycle.
Being smarter than the media figured, the White House is not confirming or denying anything. Except for the first lady’s comments, they have said absolutely nothing about the forged documents at all. They don’t have to. If they cannot get Bush on the record denying the accusations, they have nothing. The media may eventually release their better forgeries as an October surprise, but again without a Bush denial, the accusations would be dismiss as a desperate effort by the elite media to bring down our President.
The current document scandal has the additional benefit for the Democrats of removing John Kerry from the news. His numbers are always better when he is not talking. He cannot win this election, and the media and DNC know that. Their only hope is to bring down Bush, one way or another.
We are all lucky that Bush, Rove and the rest are smarter than that.
The political lesson is to NEVER respond to an attack with anything but facts or exculpatory documents. Never complain, because it makes you look weak. Never deny anything that you cannot prove. John Kerry broke all these rules with the Swifties accusations and is paying for it today. Kerry cannot deny their accusations, so he should have kept his mouth shut, instead of trying to prevent the information from getting out, and later attacking the messenger.
Far fetched? What do you think?
Far fetched
That is right. Bush is very disciplined and focused. Rather is trying to get a response which is not coming.
SINCE WHEN DID YOU GUYS EVER CARE ABOUT A LYING, CHEATING, DRAFT-DODGING, DRUG USER IN THE WHITEHOUSE?
This is very interesting, ONLY because Bush hasn't said anything one way or the other in regards to the CONTENT of the memos. If Bush comes out and says "that's not true", he runs the risk of falling into the trap that your source describes. It is very telling that President Bush hasn't denied or confirmed anything in regards to this whole mess. Something has to be "up".
I'm not sure I buy it but it certainly is not far-fetched at all. Evil will always do whatever is necessary to advance its cause. It believes in a means to an end.
It's a bit of a stretch, not very likely. DU working overtime?
I think there will be a lot of scenarios coming up and this one sounds believable. President Bush learned a lot from his fathers failed campaign against Clinton and it is not a coincidence that SO many Clinton people are NOW working on Kerrys campaign...with the same OLD TRICKS. The difference is WE are now paying attention, thanks to the Internet and more importantly so is BUSH and his advisors....
I am sure there is an October front being planned. But this kittykelly/national guard hoax, phony physical (ie drug test)scam has to have something to build to, some climatic explosion....danrather is hanging on for something. Bush should stear clear of all of this. No one is buying it. And unfortunatley for the dems.....ordianry dem voters aren't going to care...only the kool-aid drinkers and they are aleady on board. This is scaring off a lot of swing voters. It's old news. Now the stuff on kerry is current, new to most voters, and is kicking kerry's numbers way down. I will be curious to see the numbers, that's when the dems will give up, they are holding out in hope of polling numbers coming in for them.
Shoulda took the blue pill.
As the dims grow more crazy over their loss of power, anything is possible.
Pukin:
I posted the same thing last night on another thread (search for it). My thesis is that this whole thing is a conspiracy to bring down GWB by catching him in lies. That's why Rather is holding fast - he has, with the DNC, constructed a scheme that will bring in elements of drug use, evasion of service, favoritism, and lying, to "prove" that GWB is unfit for command. The Kitty Kelley book is part of it, and I am sure we will hear more on others.
Very far fetched Vomit Man.
Even if everything you say it true, at this point I think the public is so turned off to the whole National Guard thing that it won't make a difference in the world.
I have wondered if they are doing this on purpose to try and neutralize any docs that come out on Kerry.
Any way you slice it, CBS has tossed their credibility down the toilet to further their political agenda.
tell your source thank you.... and we get the message... and will continue to make them look like the fools they are.....
MISUNDERESTIMATION .......
Here's my Theory on The Motive Behind the Memos.
You're right. I think this is tin-foil. I don't believe in conspiracies.
A little. And if its true, the WH ain't falling for it.
Remember, evil mastermind Karl Rove plays for our side. :-)
I already thought this one through. I said these exact words to my father last night.....
It seems the cBS Docs are so bad that they wanted to get caught. It could be a bait trick. I can't believe the President has not looked at his history from every angle as to how the media could attack him? I mean he has run for office too many times.
I do agree it is usually not the truths but the cover ups that get you. Ask Dick and Billy Boy! But what is strange is that I do not think whether GW missed that medical exam has anything anymore to who he is and how he governs. He has too much of a track record from that point on...
What nailed Kerry is that he had no other track record to speak of since the 70's. That is how bad a candidate he is. The erosion in his internal numbers are becoming historic. I do not see any of this nonsense taking down a President.
It will be interesting to see how the WhiteHouse follows this up because they did say yesterday they may release more papers........
I don't buy it. Coming forward with better documents after the first ones have been shown to be forgeries is more than risky. Nobody's going to be paying attention to CBS anymore on this issue if they are forced to admit that these are forged, and if they have "better" documents in their possession, that means they knowingly put out forged ones. I can't count the number of felonies that could constitute. If the documents are going to suddenly "appear," I can't imagine anyone believing it it. They would have to be copies, and the cloud of suspicion will overshadow anything they might say.
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