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WAS THE DNC INVOLVED? TIME TO CONNECT THE DOTS
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Posted on 09/16/2004 6:57:57 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights

 

  1. Established fact: the memos Dan Rather used in his 60 Minutes II segment are forgeries.

  2. The WASHINGTON POST has reported the memos originated from a Kinko's in Abilene Texas.

  3. Bill Burkett, a man with a long festering grudge against the Bush family lives in Baird Texas, 25 miles from Abilene.  It has been report Mr. Burkett has an account at Kinko's

The obvious conclusion would be Mr. Burkett is the source of the memos.  Case closed.  End of Story.  And the DNC and Dan Rather would have us believe the story is over.  They want to get to the substance.  Problem is that ending is way too neat.  I am convinced this goes back to the DNC and the information is out there, waiting for us.  I believe it can be proven.  But it is going to take some work.

The story is NOT the content of the memos.  The story is:

  1. Who faxed them to CBS?

  2. Is the DNC/Kerry Campaign involved?

  3. If the DNC/Kerry Campaign is involved, can it be proven?

  4. Was Dan Rather a willing participant?

I believe the above questions can be answered with certainty. We need another central thread to focus on this chapter of the story.  It is a place where documentation can be gathered, facts confirmed,   wild speculation disgarded, rumors dismissed, and logical, reasonable conclusions drawn.


This is from my post on another thread:  Rather Concedes Papers Are Suspect (Rather Talks of Questions On Papers (on DRUDGE)  #127 posted on 09/16/2004

To: shrinkermd; Anti-Bubba182; GOPcapitalist; SnowstormPatriot

As more information flows, I am convinced this is a DNC coordinated smear effort. Case in point:

Ex-Texas Guardsman eyed in Bush memo leak    posted on 09/16/2004 2:35:47 AM EDT by Anti-Bubba182


"...Mr. Burkett's attorney, David Van Os, said yesterday through a spokeswoman that he has been instructed by his client not to comment. The New York Times reported yesterday that Mr. Van Os refused to say if his client played a role in providing the memos to CBS.

The New York Times quoted Mr. Van Os as saying, "If, hypothetically, Bill Burkett or anyone else, any other individual, had prepared or had typed on a word processor as some of the journalists are presuming, without much evidence, if someone in the year 2004 had prepared on a word processor replicas of documents that they believed had existed in 1972 or 1973 — which Bill Burkett has absolutely not done" — then he continued, "what difference would it make?" ....." excerpted from the Washington Times.
 


Next:  Memogate: Burkett's attorney/spokesman hosted Kerry rallies in Texas

"Here's a photo of David Van Os, the spokesman for Bill Burkett of Memogate fame, addressing a major John Kerry for President rally in Austin last month."

posted on 09/16/2004 3:04:52 AM EDT by GOPcapitalist
 


further down the thread: David Van Os for Texas Supreme Court

To: GOPcapitalist
You might also be interested to know that David Van Os was an associate in the law firm of David R. Richards.

For those of you that haven't made the connection yet, David Richards is the husband of Ann Richards, the former Governor of Texas that was defeated by George W. Bush.

Do you smell a bit of vendetta here?

15 posted on 09/16/2004 3:29:10 AM EDT by SnowstormPatriot


Several weeks or maybe a month ago, I watched 2 newsclips which I believe (speculation only) were designed to generate interest in this story.  The first was an article in Salon  Salon.com News | George W. Bush's missing year  Sept 2, 2004.  I do not have the whole article [refuse to register] , I believe Mrs. Allison is laying a groundwork for the Killian memos.  This may be the article which describes a perceived snub by the Bush family towards the Killians.  If anyone has that article, please post link or quote.

I saw another TV news clip and I am desperately looking for the source.  It states implicitly that the video Ben Barnes made was done at the request of John Kerry.  If anyone remembers the report or has a link to a source on that one, please post here.

 

 

 




 



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: billburkett; burkett; bush; davidvanos; dnc; kerry; killian; mcauliffe; rather
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Dear Protect,

Another turd from our friend, Democrat Operative Burkett:

http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:SW120tkQE0wJ:www.mikehersh.com/article_20.shtml+%22bill+burkett%22+%2Bdemocrat&hl=en


sitetest


101 posted on 09/16/2004 8:36:45 AM PDT by sitetest (Spitball Kerry for Collaborator-in-Chief!)
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To: PigRigger

MSM died September 8.
; )


102 posted on 09/16/2004 8:37:37 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Watch for a CBS employee in a trench coat going by DeepWord.....)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
That doesn't prove coordination any more than those documents lining up pixel for pixel with true-type-fonted MS Word documents prove they aren't typewritten.

Nothing proves anything for those who refuse to make unwanted inferences.

103 posted on 09/16/2004 8:38:58 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: sitetest

A better version than in #101.

http://www.mikehersh.com/article_20.shtml


104 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:14 AM PDT by sitetest (Spitball Kerry for Collaborator-in-Chief!)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
According to Neal Boortz this morning, Burkett's lawyer, a democrat activist lawyer, went to Florida after the 2000 election as a member of Gore's legal team.
105 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:29 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Rather said the person who supplied the memos was "unimpeachable". com)
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To: sitetest

He isn't an unimpeachable source, nor is he a person who could secure a candidate for Supreme Court/Texas for his personal attorney. He's a patsy.


106 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:44 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Watch for a CBS employee in a trench coat going by DeepWord.....)
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To: YaYa123

Dear YaYa123,

"According to Neal Boortz this morning, Burkett's lawyer, a democrat activist lawyer, went to Florida after the 2000 election as a member of Gore's legal team."

That's nothing. Burkett himself is a Democrat political operative in Texas. Look at posts #102 and #91.


sitetest


107 posted on 09/16/2004 8:40:53 AM PDT by sitetest (Spitball Kerry for Collaborator-in-Chief!)
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To: VadeRetro

Not offered up as proof....just offered as an FYI


108 posted on 09/16/2004 8:41:38 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (What part of SHALL MAKE NO LAW do they not understand?)
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To: mabelkitty

Dear mabelkitty,

He's a player, albeit most likely a small one.

Read the links I've provided in #91 and #102. His relationship with Van Os is substantial. He was head of the man's Steering Committee when Van Os tried to run for chairman of the Texas Democrat Party.

He is an outspoken Democrat activist.


sitetest


109 posted on 09/16/2004 8:42:49 AM PDT by sitetest (Spitball Kerry for Collaborator-in-Chief!)
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To: mabelkitty
Talking about Kerry; not the MSM.

If this is Kerry's winning strategy it is doomed to fail; he'd be better served coming clean and moving on.

Agree with you concerning the MSM. Anyone cares about the truth could trust them going forward.
110 posted on 09/16/2004 8:42:52 AM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: mabelkitty
Talking about Kerry; not the MSM.

If this is Kerry's winning strategy it is doomed to fail; he'd be better served coming clean and moving on.

Agree with you concerning the MSM. Anyone cares about the truth could trust them going forward.
111 posted on 09/16/2004 8:43:28 AM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; All

I am going to be in & out rest of day. Tonight I will go through thread & organize information posted here & post in the morning.


112 posted on 09/16/2004 8:43:28 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (What part of SHALL MAKE NO LAW do they not understand?)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Note that the Kerry-Edwards press release repeatedly mentions a MEDICAL exam. I believe this is the correct term actually used by the Guard. The fake memos use the word PHYSICAL exam, which Rather repeats. Mrs. Knox said in all of her interviews that the fake memos used terms that the TANG would not have used.

IMO, Burkett would not have been so sloppy as to use the word PHYSICAL if he were the forger. I don't think he has anything to do with these memos. He is being set up as the fall guy, and his lawyer Van Os is in on it. Soooo....

What other prominent Texas lawyer might have plausibly gotten Van Os hooked up with Burkett?

What other person needed the memos to back up his own story, because otherwise nobody would believe him and Dan Rather would not have Put him on 60 Minutes?

What person has supposedly written a book about all of this, which would be pretty thin gruel without some documentation?

What person stood to gain the most from this story if it had not unraveled?

BEN BARNES
BEN BARNES
BEN BARNES

113 posted on 09/16/2004 8:47:59 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Proud to be a Reagan Alumna!)
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To: sola_fide
This missing physical has been dredged up in every election since his campaign against Ann Richards in Texas.

The George Magazine article in Oct 2000 (Gee - The timing sound the same - last weeks before an election to pull up National Guard records?) is actually fairly even-handed and straight-forward.

It's hatred.
114 posted on 09/16/2004 8:49:22 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: maryz; Howlin; Registered; neverdem; MHGinTN; xsmommy

George magazine article, October, 2000 on Lt Bush's service.

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39ea05224b3e.htm

Gee, look at the old FreeRepublic format!


115 posted on 09/16/2004 8:52:06 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
David Van Os addresses John Kerry for President rally, Austin, TX August 21, 2004

Howard Dean was the other keynote speaker.


116 posted on 09/16/2004 8:52:37 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist ("Can Lincoln expect to subjugate a people thus resolved? No!" - Sam Houston, 3/1863)
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To: sitetest

Burkett is a nut job.
He doesn't have access.
He's being used as a tool.
And has been since 1999.
Everyone already gave up on him.


117 posted on 09/16/2004 8:54:00 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Watch for a CBS employee in a trench coat going by DeepWord.....)
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To: YaYa123

And yet another Tenn/Texas connection.
Interesting.
Lehane/Gore/Os.


118 posted on 09/16/2004 8:55:04 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Watch for a CBS employee in a trench coat going by DeepWord.....)
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To: mabelkitty
Here is the link to the Texas/Tennesse Connection:

Tennesse Democrat for Kerry hints at Bush Memos in July

Here's a post that I wrote that discussed the goal of linking Bush to cocaine in the Guard:

The Motive Behind the Forgeries

119 posted on 09/16/2004 8:58:51 AM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: mabelkitty
"Susan Estrich also had a screed on what was about to come, and oh how we'd pay "

Yes I remember that article she wrote. Since we are speculating here, didn't that article remind you of one of Osama's "secret message to launch" videos. There are other examples I have seen cited that the Dems were giving "tells" that they were about to drop a big bomb.

Unfortunately for them they are better at propaganda then they are at forgeries.

Unfortunately for us, I don't think we will ever find the smoking gun.

Fortunately for us, the world, and posterity it probably won't matter. Kerry looks to be toast.

120 posted on 09/16/2004 9:00:45 AM PDT by Check_Your_Premises (We have to win the war at home before we can win ANY war abroad!)
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