Posted on 09/16/2004 6:57:57 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
Established fact: the memos Dan Rather used in his 60 Minutes II segment are forgeries.
The WASHINGTON POST has reported the memos originated from a Kinko's in Abilene Texas.
Bill Burkett, a man with a long festering grudge against the Bush family lives in Baird Texas, 25 miles from Abilene. It has been report Mr. Burkett has an account at Kinko's
The obvious conclusion would be Mr. Burkett is the source of the memos. Case closed. End of Story. And the DNC and Dan Rather would have us believe the story is over. They want to get to the substance. Problem is that ending is way too neat. I am convinced this goes back to the DNC and the information is out there, waiting for us. I believe it can be proven. But it is going to take some work.
The story is NOT the content of the memos. The story is:
Who faxed them to CBS?
Is the DNC/Kerry Campaign involved?
If the DNC/Kerry Campaign is involved, can it be proven?
Was Dan Rather a willing participant?
I believe the above questions can be answered with certainty. We need another central thread to focus on this chapter of the story. It is a place where documentation can be gathered, facts confirmed, wild speculation disgarded, rumors dismissed, and logical, reasonable conclusions drawn.
This is from my post on another thread: Rather Concedes Papers Are Suspect (Rather Talks of Questions On Papers (on DRUDGE) #127 posted on 09/16/2004
To: shrinkermd; Anti-Bubba182; GOPcapitalist; SnowstormPatriot
As more information flows, I am convinced this is a DNC coordinated smear effort. Case in point:
Ex-Texas Guardsman eyed in Bush memo leak posted on 09/16/2004 2:35:47 AM EDT by Anti-Bubba182
"...Mr. Burkett's attorney, David Van Os, said yesterday through a spokeswoman that he has been instructed by his client not to comment. The New York Times reported yesterday that Mr. Van Os refused to say if his client played a role in providing the memos to CBS.
The New York Times quoted Mr. Van Os as saying, "If, hypothetically, Bill Burkett or anyone else, any other individual, had prepared or had typed on a word processor as some of the journalists are presuming, without much evidence, if someone in the year 2004 had prepared on a word processor replicas of documents that they believed had existed in 1972 or 1973 — which Bill Burkett has absolutely not done" — then he continued, "what difference would it make?" ....." excerpted from the Washington Times.
Next: Memogate: Burkett's attorney/spokesman hosted Kerry rallies in Texas
"Here's a photo of David Van Os, the spokesman for Bill Burkett of Memogate fame, addressing a major John Kerry for President rally in Austin last month."
posted on 09/16/2004 3:04:52 AM EDT by GOPcapitalist
further down the thread: David Van Os for Texas Supreme Court
To: GOPcapitalist
You might also be interested to know that David Van Os was an associate in the law firm of David R. Richards.
For those of you that haven't made the connection yet, David Richards is the husband of Ann Richards, the former Governor of Texas that was defeated by George W. Bush.
Do you smell a bit of vendetta here?
15 posted on 09/16/2004 3:29:10 AM EDT by SnowstormPatriot
Several weeks or maybe a month ago, I watched 2 newsclips which I believe (speculation only) were designed to generate interest in this story. The first was an article in Salon Salon.com News | George W. Bush's missing year Sept 2, 2004. I do not have the whole article [refuse to register] , I believe Mrs. Allison is laying a groundwork for the Killian memos. This may be the article which describes a perceived snub by the Bush family towards the Killians. If anyone has that article, please post link or quote.
I saw another TV news clip and I am desperately looking for the source. It states implicitly that the video Ben Barnes made was done at the request of John Kerry. If anyone remembers the report or has a link to a source on that one, please post here.
My two cents. Chain of custody: Burkett (forger)-DNC-Kerry-CBS.
The DNC and Kerry were doubtful of the authenticity, but had to dump them because the SBV's were killing them and they needed to fight back. Probably would have liked to have saved them until late October, but had to dump them pronto.
CBS was a willing accomplice in the fraud.
Anyone with ping lists, can you do your ping thing?
Tag hobson's research on James C. Moore that was posted last night.
Tag Nancy Pelosi sticking her neck out to defend CBS - if Burkett was the source, she wouldn't have bothered. She would have let CBS handle it.
DNC is putting out Burkett's name, because everyone had his name RIGHT AFTER THE 60 MINUTES BROADCAST.
Tag the article posted last night from The Hill.
Fortunate Son ad, with CBS memo, was revealed to the press July 20 - before the SBVT ads even aired.
Christopher Cox will indeed get to the bottom of this with his investigation. Only problem is, they won't discover that the DNC was directly involved until, oh . . . maybe next January. So much for Congressional hearings; they're usually convened for bluster purposes and nothing much else. Get working, Freepers. Don't let the guys at Power Line and Little Green Footballs show you up!
From the Kerry Spot, the final nail:
Marion Carr Knox, the secretary to Col. Jerry Killian, President Bush's National Guard commander, this evening, during her interview with Dan Rather:
"And there are words in there that belong in the Army, not to the Air Guard. We never used those terms."
From the Veterans for Peace web site:
Lt. Col. Bill Burkett completed 28 years of decorated service and was medically retired from the US Army National Guard in 1998.
UPDATE: I must have the best readers in the world. Kerry Spot reader Roger points out another unusual similarity.
One phrase that struck me on reading the CYA memo that "Killian" wrote referred to him "having trouble running interference and doing my job". "Run interference" struck me as an unusual turn of phrase. So, I google "run interference" and "Burkett" and get two hits: He's used "run interference" in an interview with Kevin Drum (where someone ran interference for him), and described another officer as running interference for Bush, Rove, Albaugh etc. It seems to be a verbal tic with him and it's interesting that it shows up in a memo that "Killian" wrote.
This isn't proof, but it is odd that this particular phrase would show up like this. By the way, note that Rather and Mapes say they spent five years working on this story, and the blogosphere is picking this apart like piranha on a cow within a matter of hours.
James C. Moore, Bush's Brain author, quoted in NYPost story today, Abilene, TX resident.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1217165/posts
Less than a week after CBS's "Favorite Son" story, the DNC announces OPERATION FAVORITE SON with a "Favorite Son" ad buy and web site, this in the midst of the firestorm over the documents being fake and the entire CBS hierarchy having to pretend to not understand or even see the overwhelming and obvious nature of the evidence for fraud.
So let me guess at a connection or two. The DNC hooked CBS and probably USA Today up with Burkett and actively coordinated with CBS at least so that its ad campaign would be well-timed in the wake of CBS's big scoop.
OPERATION FAVORITE SON was too far along to just cancel, despite the story blowing up in CBS's face. It was past the final abort checkpoint.
Thus, CBS can never truly cooperate in investigating the real story here, the story of the fraud behind its memos. But the only way they can brazenly defy subpoenas, etc., with any sympathy at all is to stand on the confidentiality of their sources. The only way they can do THAT is to stay confused about whether the documents are actually fake, which means playing dumb for essentially the rest of their lives.
"Trust CBS. Get your news from people too dumb to pour piss out of a boot with the instructions on the sole."
Could be a Clintonesque parsing of words. His vehement denial is that the documents were absolutely not typed on a word processor in the year 2004. Burkett has been peddling documents for years. He may have begun rough drafts on these particular nine or ten months ago and still be able to truthfully deny that he had absolutely not typed them in the year 2004.
It could be much simpler than all of that. Mary Mapes visited Burkett during the summer according to reports. What if she generated them right after visiting with Burkett (with his tacit approval)? There were some obvious mistakes about TANG in them that you wouldn't think Burkett would make.
That would explain why Rather is so adamant; he doesn't know that Mapes faked them. That also turns things around and makes CBS the source of the memos rather than the DNC.
Pelosi's Poor Media screed.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1217632/posts
I think Burkett's involvement was orchestrated/manipulated by those seeking to exploit his problems with the Bush Family. He was used by the true planners of this whole fiasco.
The question remains:
Why would CBS run with a story:
--based on sloppy, forged documents
--maybe coming from a man with a festering grudge against the Bush family
-- a man, by the way, with a history of 2 mental breaksdowns and
--the word of an 86 year old woman who says they are forgeries, but the it sounds like what they said
The whole thing is sloppy. Either "too sloppy" or truly planned by the Apple Cumpling Gang.
DNC Fortunate Son ad from The Hill
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1217207/posts
It's no surprise that all the key players from Dan Rather, to Tom Harkin, and even Head Stooge of the DNC, The Punk all were reading from the same talking points on the same day of the week.
1. Rather said that the source was unimpeachable. Is this Burkett guy unimpeachable? If not, what other source or sources were there.
2. TO whom was the fax addressed?
Nashville/Texas connections via a talk radio show
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1216483/posts
Congress does need to stay away from this...it will muddy the waters with charges of limiting freedom of the press.
What is the date that Burkett used that term?
Can it be traced prior to this past summer?
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