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Breaking news: Johnny Ramone dies
AP
| Sept. 15, 2004
| AP
Posted on 09/15/2004 8:28:23 PM PDT by JellyJam
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To: GSWarrior
I missed no point. The Dictators of Louder and Louder fame. I have an LP of them.
The issue was whether the Ramones was the greatest rr band ever and it isn't even close they may not make the top 25 in fact. THAT is the point.
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posted on
09/16/2004 8:06:30 AM PDT
by
justshutupandtakeit
(My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
To: justshutupandtakeit
I've been reading this forum since September 2000. You are always making obnoxious comments. Who cares if you don't like the Ramones. This is a tribute thread to a dead conservative musician and champion of Reagan and his policies. If you think the Ramones suck by all means don't post to this thread.
Thanks
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posted on
09/16/2004 8:10:01 AM PDT
by
t_skoz
To: justshutupandtakeit
No, I would not put them on the top of my list. I don't really care actually. I was never a huge fan of theirs, but I admire what they did.
To: t_skoz
if i dont see you again in this world, i'll see you in the next. don't be late. J.M.H.
R.I.P. johnny...............
thanks t_skoz and of course weegee
To: t_skoz
If your reading comprehension over the years is as poor as it is currently you better start again. You can begin with my comments on this thread.
Where did you get the idea that I didn't like the Ramones? NOthing bad was said about them merely that they were NOT the greatest RR band ever by a long shot.
In fact I do like them just don't overrate them.
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posted on
09/16/2004 8:49:03 AM PDT
by
justshutupandtakeit
(My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
To: paltz
Oh man....I never realized that Johnny and I loved the same things so much! RIP Johnny. You were a great guitarist and a great guy, and I hope you're jammin with the greats now!
126
posted on
09/16/2004 8:58:08 AM PDT
by
RightWingAtheist
(<A HREF=http://www.michaelmoore.com>disingenuous filmmaker</A>)
To: Age of Reason
If that's a conservative, this country is lost.>>>
only suit and tie wearing, bible thumping,, number crunching proffessionals in your party huh.
127
posted on
09/16/2004 8:58:20 AM PDT
by
aft_lizard
(I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
To: GSWarrior
Personally, this 37 y.o. punk loves Led Zeppelin AND the Ramones. In their own way I think these are the two best rock bands ever. Back in the day it was de rigeur for punks to bag on Zep (they WERE awfully pretentious and seem to have been the influence for at least half of the material in Spinal Tap), but damn, those guys were good.
However, I absolutely detest Kansas, Yes (NO!), ELP, Boston, Styx, and the rest of the bloated corpse of 70's corporate arena rock and their miscreant progeny (Bon Jovi anyone?).
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posted on
09/16/2004 9:04:56 AM PDT
by
itsamelman
(“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
![](http://images.washtimes.com/photos/full/20040311-011123-3184.jpg)
Gooba Gabba, Johnny. You were "one of us".
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posted on
09/16/2004 9:25:26 AM PDT
by
weegee
(What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
To: Clemenza
I don't disagree with you about the song but Joey voted for Reagan.
130
posted on
09/16/2004 9:27:08 AM PDT
by
weegee
(What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
To: itsamelman
131
posted on
09/16/2004 9:27:37 AM PDT
by
itsamelman
(“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
To: Bella_Bru
132
posted on
09/16/2004 9:45:52 AM PDT
by
StoneColdGOP
(Nothing is Bush's fault... Nothing is Bush's fault... Nothing is Bush's fault...)
To: paltz
Ah but Joey and Marky didn't get along at all at the end (I've heard 8 minutes of a radio segment of them yelling at each other on the Howard Stern show near the end of Joey's life).
Dee Dee got out of the band a long time ago. I suspect that Joey didn't want to spend his final years fighting his ex-friends.
Dee Dee's final book (published after his death) shows that he didn't like the socialized Europe (with Europeans' staunch antiAmerican views, and Dee Dee had been born in Germany). Dee Dee also seemed to come to realize that while Johnny could be a hard ass trying to get the band in line and get them to the show on time, he realizes that someone had to "be the bad guy" and do it. Dee Dee even wrote a little about 9-11-2001 in his notes that got published as a book. Some of the Dee Dee stories are exaggerated (or even complete fabrications) though.
As to Johnny stealing Joey's girlfriend, the infighting continued when C.J. got Marky's niece pregnant. And some of the other NYC women went with several different band members (as noted in Dee Dee's book Lobotomy which was also excerpted and expanded on in Leggs McNeil's Please Kill Me).
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posted on
09/16/2004 9:49:51 AM PDT
by
weegee
(What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
To: pete anderson
But, if you listen to the songs lyrics and see the cover art I do not see how Johnny could have been a true conservative. *Sigh* READ INTO IT.
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posted on
09/16/2004 9:58:06 AM PDT
by
smith288
(Did you know John Kerry was a senator? What's his record, I wonder...)
To: Fresh Wind
I suspect that the correlation between the decline in the quality of rock music and sf-horror films produced in America can both be tied to the loss of local horror host programs on television.
I need some money to finance a study on this phenomena.
Zacherly influenced some. Ghoulardi (Ernie Anderson) infected the whole Cleveland scene (with Lux Interior of the Cramps and members of Rocket From The Tombs, which spawned The Dead Boys and Pere Ubu citing Ghoulardi as a big influence). I'm sure that Vampira and even Elvira influenced bands.
The underground success of this foreign film may help prove the theory:
![](http://cacheasp1.sonymusic.co.jp/Music/Arch/KS/GuitarWolf/KSC2-306/jacket.jpg)
Guitar Wolf's chief influences are Joan Jett, The Ramones, Link Wray, and the Stooges.
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posted on
09/16/2004 9:58:52 AM PDT
by
weegee
(What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
To: itsamelman
I just saw the "End of the Century" at a WHFS screening in DC last night- really strange then to hear on the radio this morning that Johnny passed. A really good, funny movie about an influential group. Some of the best lines; Tommy explaining that he became their drummer because while he was doing their sound, they needed a drummer - "I had never played drums before but I started then. We sounded better when we learned to play our instruments." And Dee-Dee saying when they started becoming well known, "Joey had a new kind of girlfriends - ones who weren't on medication." Johnny came off as a pain, unfunny taskmaster but who kept them together. If you haven't seen it, buy "Rock and Roll High School" - worth it for the scene of the Ramones driving up to the theater in a convertible eating fried chicken and playing "I Just Want to have something to do" with their guitars not plugged into anything.
136
posted on
09/16/2004 9:59:55 AM PDT
by
hadrian
To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Slightly off-topic. The Cramps are back in DIY (Do it yourself) mode and running their own record company, having been dissatisfied with what "labels" have done for them. They have issued all of the albums they own (everything except the IRS albums) on CD and vinyl.
This next week is supposed to see the release of a 2 disc set of vintage rarities from the Cramps.
137
posted on
09/16/2004 10:02:50 AM PDT
by
weegee
(What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
To: GSWarrior
a dictators reference on a conservative website. that's why i love FR. as for johnny, all i can say is "i want to be sedated".
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posted on
09/16/2004 10:08:05 AM PDT
by
jays911
To: struggle
Punks didn't like hippies or their political correctness. Punks also believed in the principle of "Do it yourself".
It is historical revisionism that makes people believe that all punks are anarchist-socialists. It got co-opted by the commies just as rock and roll did in the 1960s.
There were no politics involved in 1950s rock and roll. Some may claim "integration" but there were no such lyrics (I have heard some earlier jump blues songs that refer to white people and black people both liking the music). Integration of young people happened as a response to an appreciation of the music, setting aside differences, not a political act or mindset. Politics in 1950s and early 1960s music was found in the more "respected" folk singer movement.
139
posted on
09/16/2004 10:09:47 AM PDT
by
weegee
(What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
To: JellyJam
He was young.
I am really over this cancer scourge. Cure it, already.
Let's redirect the 15 billion we are sending to Africa to curing cancer.
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posted on
09/16/2004 10:10:21 AM PDT
by
riri
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