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Live Thread: CBS Defense of Fraud Memos, 5pm EST
Free Republic ^ | 15 Sept 2004 | gobucks

Posted on 09/15/2004 1:59:55 PM PDT by gobucks

Howlin set a great example last sept 8th when he started a live thread for the 60 minutes II story.

Let's see how much squirmin we here ....


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cbs; hoax
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To: TomEwall
Does anyone know who Marty Heldt is? Does he have a connection with the Kerry campaign?

Wizbang thinks maybe Marty Heldt gave the memos to CBS.

Here is a Tom Paine.com article about him.

341 posted on 09/15/2004 2:49:42 PM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: gobucks

The people that taught me are all DEAD.


342 posted on 09/15/2004 2:49:42 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: A Citizen Reporter
We alreadyt know the secretary doesn't like Bush and has said the memo could have been true but probably wasn't. She said the memo represented how Killian felt about Bush.

Now the proper way to run a real unbiased story would be to put Killians son and wife on to rebut, which they have done already too.

Lets sum up... CBS runs story based on forged documents supposedly written by a man who is dead and cannot be questioned. The mans son and wife claim he really liked Bush and had respect for him. They claim he would never have written such a thing about Bush. CBS finds his 86 year old secretary to confirm their story and DOESN'T EVEN REPORT KILLIANS FAMILIES STATEMENTS.

Its awesome to know we have a front row seat for the end of the MSM and the Dem party. History is being made.

343 posted on 09/15/2004 2:49:48 PM PDT by normy (Just cause you think you can box, doesn't mean you're ready to climb in the ring with Ali.)
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To: TomEwall

Marty Heldt is a resident of Clinton Iowa, has his own website, google coldfeet, is in this up to his neck and has been in this since 1999!


344 posted on 09/15/2004 2:49:59 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Sub-Driver; Darksheare; SandyInSeattle; OSHA

Are we saying that Dan "Kenneth" Rathers is going to get a primetime zotting?

Will this be the first Zot outside of Free Republic?


345 posted on 09/15/2004 2:50:04 PM PDT by Americanwolf ("Be vwey vwey quite! I am hunting DU Twolls! ---Elmer Fuwd Free Republic member and cartoon icon)
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To: Howlin
Huh??

Hey sweetie, I'm getting lost in the flurry of posts.
Is this the right thread?
What did they say?

346 posted on 09/15/2004 2:50:07 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Alan Go!!!)
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To: r9etb

You don't think they're using beeber stune therapy on the little old lady, now, do you?

Could they stoop that low?
Oh, yeah, it's CBS.

Never mind.

The moosen head is in the tent.


347 posted on 09/15/2004 2:50:19 PM PDT by ColoCdn (veritas nunquam perit (but evil people do))
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To: Loopy Picklefink

CBS must be trying to beat the FOX News ratings for the day.

With all the damage they have done to the Kerry campaign, maybe they will start supporting Bush.


348 posted on 09/15/2004 2:50:24 PM PDT by DrDavid
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To: MEG33; gobucks; Howlin
also here.

MEG33, what do you mean? That doesn't say anything about whether she's a she.

349 posted on 09/15/2004 2:50:37 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Mamzelle

"IT IS NOT THE VALIDITY OF THE EVIDENCE, IT IS THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE CHARGES!" - Baghdad Dan, 9/15/04


350 posted on 09/15/2004 2:50:42 PM PDT by Twinkie
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To: patriciaruth

When does CBS News come on in Eastern Time Zone??


As Soon as the hands on my Dan Rather watch stop spinning.


351 posted on 09/15/2004 2:50:51 PM PDT by usmcobra
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To: CaptSkip
"Kurtz says right now, CBS is interviewing Killian's secretary." This nearly dead, but sweet old lady is going to save CBS?"

I think they will stick with their story that what was said in the documents was factual and it doesn't matter the docs were fake. They they'll do a sensitive and sweet interview with the 86 year old woman, who will verify the intent. Then they'll close with "we stand by these verified documents and hope the VRWC shows respect by shutting up and not attacking a helpless little old lady (or us either for that matter). Mrs PD
352 posted on 09/15/2004 2:51:10 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: akorahil

Ugh...lemme guess...a two hour full of hot air slam against Bush and anyone who would doubt the intregrity and honesty of CBS and to prove it they have an old lady with three stories...now which one works best for you?


353 posted on 09/15/2004 2:51:14 PM PDT by shawngf
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BTTT


354 posted on 09/15/2004 2:51:18 PM PDT by girlscout
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To: teletech
damn, they may have Buckhead in a back room, a pair of helen thomas' panties on his head, and Barry Manilow music playing in surround sound. Damn.

FREE BUCKHEAD!

355 posted on 09/15/2004 2:51:21 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: pikachu

Nice idea, but notes made in his role as an officer in the military are not private property. They may either be "classified," "proprietary," or "public domain." As they seem to be related to personnel issues, I think they may not be available under FOIA, so they are probably military proprietary. All this assumes they are not forgeries - which they are most certainly - but from a perspective of a lawsuit, there are probably grounds to go after CBS.


356 posted on 09/15/2004 2:51:21 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: Bahbah
Are you saying that is an acutal photo of Kerry?

I've seen other photos of him on Kennedy's yacht, so it's possible that it is him... now respond to the content!

357 posted on 09/15/2004 2:52:28 PM PDT by Krodg ("Weak people are beaten," Putin 9/04/2004....Hey Kerry, ARE YOU LISTENING???)
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To: Americanwolf

I'd love it if he did!


358 posted on 09/15/2004 2:52:40 PM PDT by Darksheare (Trolls, I've seen toothpicks sharper than your minds!)
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To: RinaseaofDs
Since it would be a firing for cause, I would think they'd whack Rather and disclose virtually simultaneously. I doubt SOX would require a delay in firing to notify if you caught the CEO stealing: he'd be out the door (with a disclosure release) within a few hours of the board getting the evidence.

I think this thing got away from Rather and CBS as the Viacom corporate and securities lawyers had to sign-off, and when they saw the proposed strategy, they said "not with my law license".

359 posted on 09/15/2004 2:52:40 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: faithincowboys; gobucks; Howlin
I was laboring under the belief that Howlin was a chick...

Apparently gobucks has proof on the subject.

360 posted on 09/15/2004 2:52:52 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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