This was probably done by the incredibly inept forger to increase the apparent “age” of the document, and to make the text appear more ragged.
Posted on 09/14/2004 8:00:51 PM PDT by finnman69
Several LGF readers emailed to say that if you open one of the CBS News Killian memos in Photoshop and adjust the levels, crumple marks show up on the paper. So I tried it, and here’s the result:
This was probably done by the incredibly inept forger to increase the apparent “age” of the document, and to make the text appear more ragged.
I’ll bet that if the real printed originals of these documents ever turn up (say, in a dumpster behind MoveOn.org headquarters), they’ll find the idiot’s fingerprints on them.
Good point.....WIsh someone would take a good look at his hard drive!
How's this? The CBS document and awolbush.com document don't show any blacking out of the address for the same May 4 document, but the CNN/USA Today/Fox documents online show no such blacking out. You can read the blacked out address at:
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/gwbush/bushang2.html
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/091004_bush_service.pdf
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-09-09bushdocs.pdf
Also the CBS document for May 19 "Memo to File" has underlining, and so does the awolbush.com but not the docs at CNN/Fox/UsaToday.
Coincidence that the 4 CBS documents and the same 4 awol.bush documents are named exactly the same? Maybe awolbush.com copied them from CBS or perhaps the other way??
Don't fall for this unless you are POSITIVE. Remember, Burkett said he got the memos out of the trash........this may be a diversion that leads to the blaming of Burkett to get CBS and Kerry off the hook.
I wonder if fingerprints leave markings that transfer to photocopies? I wonder if there are any filters that can be applied to pick up these markings?
Now I get it about the black mark.
To hell with the memos! I'd like to see the goddamned media focus on Bush's CURRENT record. (Which is only a continuation of his past record.)
Right. So CBS News presses ahead knowing that the documents... ...were forgeries? I don't think so. I bet for every one of the experts noted in the WP article, CBS has at least five stating that the documents are real.
There's nothing.. in the memos that is scandalous enough to warrant this level of hype over them being a possible forgery. So, what's all the fuss about?
If the documents are a forgery, only Karl Rove would have put those papers out there. It is consistent with his trickery. In the 2000 campaign, Rove put out braking news, the same day of the first debate, of a tape sent to him of Gore's debate strategy. No one ever saw the tape because it was all a lie placed by Karl Rove to steal news time away from the debate. Rove has played many of the same tricks in the past.
How do we know Karl Rove is not behind this ?
It's up to rove to prove he is not guilty of this Just like it's up to those that believe the docs are forged to prove they are forged.
There is NO evidence to collaborate forgery! That is why CBS is sticking to its story.
OK, didn't know that.
So much for my attempt to be like Buckhead. :)
Do you mean to say the same file names as digital files?
"is there a hidden satanic message?"
Yeah. It says, "Paul is dead."
Don't worry, it's all good.
Heh... Okay, can I just hang out *near* you? :)
You did register post #47 on this thread ....
I love the DUmmie reasoning which can be summed up thusly: "The memos are NOT forgeries but IF they are then it is all a Karl Rove plot. It's all a sinister Rovian plan."
Yes, I was looking at the html code of the awolbush.com site:
1) May 4 Ordered to Report for physical exam (blacking out)
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardmay4.pdf
http://www.awolbush.com/documents/BushGuardmay4.pdf
2) May19 I Advised Him (underlining)
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardmay19.pdf
http://www.awolbush.com/documents/BushGuardmay19.pdf
3) Aug 1 Killiam Memo to Record
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardaugust1.pdf
http://www.awolbush.com/documents/BushGuardaugust1.pdf
4)Aug 18 Killian Memo to File
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardaugust18.pdf
http://www.awolbush.com/documents/BushGuardaugust18.pdf
It's interesting that the awolbush.com 4 suspect documents are stored on their own server while their other documents are linked to the USAToday site pdf and other sites. It could mean they copied the docs down from CBS and stored them on their server or perhaps CBS got the docs from them and kept the names. I don't know if it's conclusive but it is an interesting coincidence. I wasn't the only one who noticed it. I think I saw similar comments on allahpundit yesterday night.
They, like me, noticed that the underlining and blacking out in the first 2 documents listed above do not show on the USA Today/Fox/CNN versions. Yet, in both cases, cbs has the same as awolbush.com. Again coincidence? Don't know.
I just confirmed the results in the picture at the top. I'll check the other memos AND the USA Today pdf file.
Those of us with small lives take what we can get. :)
Well, I'd hang out here some more - seems like a good crowd and a good topic, but I'm so exhausted from staying up all hours reading - I gotta crash.
'Night.
Now that I can go with.
"Seems to me forging government documents is probably a crime. Isn't it time for the FBI to look into this?"
They're busy with Sandy Berger at the moment. (yeah, right!)
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