[plushaye]

Yes, I was looking at the html code of the awolbush.com site:

1) May 4 Ordered to Report for physical exam (blacking out)
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardmay4.pdf
http://www.awolbush.com/documents/BushGuardmay4.pdf

2) May19 I Advised Him (underlining)
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardmay19.pdf
http://www.awolbush.com/documents/BushGuardmay19.pdf

3) Aug 1 Killiam Memo to Record
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardaugust1.pdf
http://www.awolbush.com/documents/BushGuardaugust1.pdf

4)Aug 18 Killian Memo to File
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardaugust18.pdf
http://www.awolbush.com/documents/BushGuardaugust18.pdf

It's interesting that the awolbush.com 4 suspect documents are stored on their own server while their other documents are linked to the USAToday site pdf and other sites. It could mean they copied the docs down from CBS and stored them on their server or perhaps CBS got the docs from them and kept the names. I don't know if it's conclusive but it is an interesting coincidence. I wasn't the only one who noticed it. I think I saw similar comments on allahpundit yesterday night.

They, like me, noticed that the underlining and blacking out in the first 2 documents listed above do not show on the USA Today/Fox/CNN versions. Yet, in both cases, cbs has the same as awolbush.com. Again coincidence? Don't know.

[Buckhead]

Well that IS interesting.

CBS got some more 'splainin' to do.

PDF's have no metadata, correct?

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

> Yes, I was looking at the html code of the awolbush.com site:
>
> 1) May 4 Ordered to Report for physical exam (blacking out)
> http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardmay4.pdf
> http://www.awolbush.com/documents/BushGuardmay4.pdf

Server timestamp for CBS is 9/09/2004 1:19AM
Timestamp for AWOLBush is 9/12/2004 2:34AM

So clearly AWOL got them from CBS via normal web downloading.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

Oh, a couple other things... Since I understand that CBS put the docs up approximately as the show went to air, the CBS server must be on GMT (EDT+4 = 9:19PM, 8SEP) Don't want anyone to think Buckhead had them before CBS put them up :-) One interesting thing about the CBS file timestamps is that they indicate that CBS downloaded them from somewhere. A direct copy from a CD or diskette would have preserved the original modification date in the directory. However, the PDFs were created only minutes before being put up: Meta Data inside PDF /ModDate (D:20040908210832-04'00') /CreationDate (D:20040908210823-04'00') /Creator (Acrobat 5.0 Image Conversion Plug-in for Windows) /Producer (Acrobat 5.0 Image Conversion Plug-in for Windows) >> endobj 3 0 obj << /Type /Metadata /Subtype /XML /Length 928 >> stream 2004-09-08T21:08:32-04:00 2004-09-08T21:08:23-04:00 Acrobat 5.0 Image Conversion Plug-in for Windows Acrobat 5.0 Image Conversion Plug-in for Windows 2004-09-08T21:08:32-04:00 2004-09-08T21:08:23-04:00 2004-09-08T21:08:32-04:00

[montrose]

FWIW, here's the output of the command "pdfinfo" for the four CBS documents:

BushGuardaugust1.pdf
Creator: Acrobat 5.0 Image Conversion Plug-in for Windows
Producer: Acrobat 5.0 Image Conversion Plug-in for Windows
CreationDate: Wed Sep 8 21:07:04 2004
ModDate: Wed Sep 8 21:07:39 2004
Tagged: no
Pages: 1
Encrypted: no
Page size: 1000 x 1191 pts
File size: 154530 bytes
Optimized: yes
PDF version: 1.4
-----------------------------------------------
BushGuardaugust18.pdf
Creator: Acrobat 5.0 Image Conversion Plug-in for Windows
Producer: Acrobat 5.0 Image Conversion Plug-in for Windows
CreationDate: Wed Sep 8 21:07:48 2004
ModDate: Wed Sep 8 21:07:59 2004
Tagged: no
Pages: 1
Encrypted: no
Page size: 1000 x 1308 pts
File size: 78392 bytes
Optimized: yes
PDF version: 1.4
-----------------------------------------------
BushGuardmay19.pdf
Creator: Acrobat 5.0 Image Conversion Plug-in for Windows
Producer: Acrobat 5.0 Image Conversion Plug-in for Windows
CreationDate: Wed Sep 8 21:08:07 2004
ModDate: Wed Sep 8 21:08:15 2004
Tagged: no
Pages: 1
Encrypted: no
Page size: 1000 x 1303 pts
File size: 109797 bytes
Optimized: yes
PDF version: 1.4
-----------------------------------------------
BushGuardmay4.pdf
Creator: Acrobat 5.0 Image Conversion Plug-in for Windows
Producer: Acrobat 5.0 Image Conversion Plug-in for Windows
CreationDate: Wed Sep 8 21:08:23 2004
ModDate: Wed Sep 8 21:08:32 2004
Tagged: no
Pages: 1
Encrypted: no
Page size: 1000 x 1310 pts
File size: 117277 bytes
Optimized: yes
PDF version: 1.4
-----------------------------------------------