Posted on 09/14/2004 7:57:30 PM PDT by Pikamax
> ... she's a partisan - no need to consider any
> further anything she said (so saith the liberals) ...
I hear you. Here's my take on that from another
thread, in response to:
> She is partisan, and she is admitting the documents
> weren't typed by her.
Which means that her pride is stronger than her
partisanship.
Had the forgeries been up to her personal standards
for work product, I wonder if she would have
disclaimed them.
In any case, although we can doubt her gossip, I
see nothing to suggest that she's lying about not
being the author.
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The gossip is at odds with statements from other
people there at the time. The lady was spouting
DNC catch-phrases. The point of the interview
was to validate or impeach the memos, and instead
of just saying "fake artifacts but true content",
but she took the opportunity to indulge in some
gratuitous Bush-bashing.
Those needless remarks bashed her own credibility
in my book. And that the AP and NYT excised those
remarks means that they know it.
And I do think that Ms. Knox's real contribution to all this is that she flat out calls the documents fakes!!
The Times deliberately left out her DNC-talking-points-type comments about Bush, in an effort to make her look more credible.
Typist says.
Oh boy!
There probably were a number of politically connected guard members, even some pilots, but probably none were Republicans, much less the son of a Congressman. Sons of Congressmen don't need pull in the military. They are pull. They don't call people "upstairs", people "upstairs" call them. I can see where 43 caused a lot of talk but no sane officer would have expressed anything negative about him, much less put it in writing.
Chair of the RNC, Ambassador to China, Director of the CIA, VP. Improbable that any negative documents would exist in any officer's desk.
OR, she was supposed to come out at a strategic time and vouch for the content of the NG documents after their introduction on CBS. However, they were exposed as fakes very quickly. So now you are seeing a half-assed attempt at salvaging her story. Hence, fake but accurate.
Consider this theory in the context of what was supposed to be a running bombardment of the President going on now that was squelched.
Regards
That's if you believe he did do so. I think he made the whole thing up to bash Bush.
Nah, I think the original DMN article was much better, because it left those comments in. The gist of that story was that even a rabid Bush-basher like that woman admits the docs are fake. Without the comments, it makes her negative comments about Bush's service look more reasonable.
IF she hates Bush and was privy to this info 30 years ago, why has she never before told anyone about it?
Where are the "originals" of which she speaks?
I got mine!
And my guess is that she is the source of the content of the forgeries. And she may have a good idea of who the source of the forgeries is.
I just heard a snippet of one of Rather's recent reports and I heard his voice break. He would be a good candidate for voice stress analysis. It would probably peg the meter.
That's what I meant the source of the allegations that are contained in the forgeries. I doubt that she had anything to do with the actual forgery.
Like Sen Loyd Bentson's son, who was also in the 147th. Both he and Bush are on the same Federal Recognition orders as 2nd Lt's.
Like Sen Loyd Bentson's son, who was also in the 147th. Both he and Bush are on the same Federal Recognition orders as 2nd Lt's.
I think she was combining gossip, in her words "yak-yak", (which they also didn't quote), with the thoughts and feelings of Killian. Of course Killian may very well have written some memo's for the record, documenting his advice to Bush about his upcoming flight medical. We know that he had approved a transfer to an air reserve squadron, which did not require any active duty time each year, a position for which he was not *then* eligible. Later the rules changed at least enough for him to be released early. Instead a "training attachment" in a non flying status, was arranged with an Albama guard unit. The physical would normally have been conducted at about the time all this was in work, and Bush was already physcially in Alabama.
I personally do not approve of what Bush did, but it was legal under the rules. I think he should have just communted back to Texas once or twice a month for drills, and taken that physical. But under the rules then in existence, what he did was allowed. Just as Kerry was allowed to come home after only 4 months, under the rules, if the 3 purple hearts had all been legitimate, whereas we know the first was not. He had gone through channels (ie. his CO) and been refused, so he just waited until the CO and doctor were no longer around and submitted the paperwork to a distant higher command when those folks weren't around to stop him or the paperwork.
I'd say her comments remove some of the mystery. They show that the documents are complete and utter fakes.
The remarks by Ms. James and Ms. Will indicate that CBS had good reason to know or at least suspect that the documents were fake, but they went ahead and presented them without any indication of these doubts by the experts they had consulted. That shows that not only are the documents fakes, CBS willfully colluded with the forger by presenting them as authentic when they had reason to know better.
The Boss's may not discuss such thing with the secretaries, but believe me, the secretries know it all. At least they think they do, and they are usually correct.
I think you are correct in that much. However I doubt that she was involved before the fact. If she had been she'd have made sure the documents were properly formated and did not contain any blatent anachronisms. She might indeed have missed that pre-existing retirement, but she'd not have missed the formating nor the use of Army terms rather than Air Force/Air Guard ones. She'd have gotten the signature block correct as well.
The basic story, false of course, has been floating around since W first ran for governor. It didn't require this old lady's help to come up with the outline of the fakes.
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