Yes...she accidentally stayed in this position for 18 1/2 minutes.
Posted on 09/14/2004 2:18:24 PM PDT by ambrose
Former secretary says she didn't type memos 04:10 PM CDT on Tuesday, September 14, 2004
By PETE SLOVER / The Dallas Morning News
HOUSTON – The former secretary for the Texas Air National Guard colonel who supposedly authored memos critical of President Bush’s Guard service said Tuesday that the documents are fake, but that they reflect real documents that once existed.
Marian Carr Knox, who worked from 1956 to 1979 at Ellington Air Force Base in Houston, said she prided herself on meticulous typing, and the memos first disclosed by CBS News last week were not her work.
“These are not real,” she told The Dallas Morning News after examining copies of the disputed memos for the first time. “They’re not what I typed, and I would have typed them for him.”
Mrs. Knox, 86, who spoke with precise recollection about dates, people and events, said she is not a supporter of Mr. Bush, who she deemed “unfit for office” and “selected, not elected.”
“I remember very vividly when Bush was there and all the yak-yak that was going on about it,” she said.
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That's exactly what the DNC wants. To confuse people so much that they not only tune out this story, but the Swifties stuff as well.
Marian Carr Knox, who worked from 1956 to 1979 at Ellington Air Force Base in Houston, said she prided herself on meticulous typing, and the memos first disclosed by CBS News last week were not her work. “These are not real,” she told The Dallas Morning News after examining copies of the disputed memos for the first time. “They’re not what I typed, and I would have typed them for him.”
This is unequivocal. And credible becaue it matches the known verifiable facts.
Mrs. Knox, 86, who spoke with precise recollection about dates, people and events, said she is not a supporter of Mr. Bush, who she deemed “unfit for office” and “selected, not elected.” “I remember very vividly when Bush was there and all the yak-yak that was going on about it,” she said.
Well, she's clearly a democratic partisan. However, she doesn't say when there was "yak-yak" about Bush. I wonder when that was. She needs to be examined closely by a skilled advocate. Beldar???
But, she said, telltale signs of forgery abounded in the four memos, which contained the supposed writings of her ex-boss, Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, who died in 1984.She said the typeface on the documents did not match either of the two typewriters that she used during her time at the Guard. She identified those machines as a mechanical Olympia, which was replaced by an IBM Selectric in the early 1970s. She spoke fondly of the Olympia machine, which she said had a key with the “th” superscript character that was the focus of much debate in the CBS memos. Experts have said that the Selectric, and mechanical typewriters such as the Olympia, could not produce proportional spacing, found in the disputed documents.
Well, this certainly goes a long way to refute the possiblity the documents were done on some special Executive Model D or Selectric Composer. Also, these recollections are consistent with common sense that an ANG office would not have the latest typewriters.
Mrs. Knox said she did all of Lt. Col. Killian’s typing, including memos for a personal “cover his back” file he kept in a locked drawer of his desk.She said she did not recall typing the memos reported by CBS News, though she said they accurately reflect the viewpoints of Lt. Col. Killian and documents that would have been in the personal file. Also, she could not say whether the CBS documents corresponded memo for memo with that file.
“The information in here was correct, but it was picked up from the real ones,” she said.
She said that the culture of the time was that men didn’t type office-related documents, and she expressed doubt that Lt. Col. Killian would have typed the memos. She said she would typically type his memos from his handwritten notes, which she would then destroy.
This is a mish-mash of recollections about procedure (she did the typing, he kept a file) that are probably reliable and speculation about the specific memos, which are not independently verifiable. Again, a skilled advocate needs to determine her basis for her assertions about the memos themselves reflecting real memos that once existed. Why would she have remembered those memos out of many others? Her memory generally needs to be tested.
Mrs. Knox, who left the Guard before Lt. Col. Killian died, said she was not sure of the disposition of his personal files when he died while still serving at Ellington. But, she said, it would have been logical that a master sergeant who worked in the squadron headquarters would have destroyed any such nonofficial documents after Lt. Col. Killian’s death.That man, reached Tuesday, declined to comment. “I don’t know anything about the matter,” he said.
Here is a key fact: she left in '79, before Killian died and therefore has no knowledge of what happened to his files.
In summary, she is a strong witness for the fact these documents are forgeries, but an untested one on the existence of any underlying "real" memos. She also said the memos may have been constructed from memory by someone who had seen Lt. Col. Killian’s private file but were not transcriptions because the language and terminology did not match what he would have used. For instance, she said, the use of the words “billets” and a reference to the “administrative officer” of Mr. Bush’s squadron reflect Army terminology rather than the Air National Guard. Some news reports attribute the CBS reports to a former Army National Guard officer who has a longstanding dispute with the Guard and has previously maintained that the president’s record was sanitized. Mrs. Knox also cited stylistic differences in the form of the notes, such as the signature on the right side of the document, rather than the left, where she would have put it.
Agreed. Is she saying she has seen documents like this.....or that they are compilations.
The question is, I wonder which part of her comment they'll say she's lying about.....
Try bugmenot.com.
They didn't *quote* her---good point, OHelix. Yes, transcripts, please, or can we expect Mrs. Knox to be on talk radio soon, saying her views also were mischaracterized?
No direct quotes from your (now) only "witness"?
Rosemary Woods, who accidentally erased a Nixon tape! LOL. I'll trade your Woods for a Betty Currie...
I don't want to register with the paper (too lazy right now) but does the article ask her what type of machine she used?
Too bad she's not a Bush supporter, just speaking on a personal level, but since she's in Texas, who cares. It would have detracted from her credibility in the strange and bizarre world of left-think anyway, who will probably still insult the woman and claim she has alzheimers or some such.
As to her reference to documents that once existed. I completely concur. I have said from the beginning the content was not harmful to GWB and once they were established to be faked, it stands to reason they were based on real and tweaked to give spinnability. The disclaimer that they came from Killian's "personal file" was simply to cover the tracks of the real DNC/Kerry Kamp source.
All in all, this is a very interesting find.
This is better than Perry Mason.
This unbelieveably neat little story fits perfectly into the mantra of the Left: its not the nature of the evidence, its the seriousness of the charge. This is unreal.
Pinging myself with this little jewel of info.
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She said the typeface on the documents did not match either of the two typewriters that she used during her time at the Guard.
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She identified those machines as a mechanical Olympia, which was replaced by an IBM Selectric in the early 1970s.
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< I have read and re-read this sentence, and it still makes no sense to me.
I think she was referring to the official documents she did type from his handwritten notes ("ie., the real ones).
Right...
Obviously her memory isn't what it should be...she can remember the two typewriters she used, but has forgotten all about Killian's laptop which had Microsoft Word on it.
Except if Dan Rather is going down for Kerry, you can expect he's going to take Kerry with him.
Giver her a few minutes, she will type some right up.
Yes...she accidentally stayed in this position for 18 1/2 minutes.
But even that doesn't make much sense.
I've always thought these were tweaked memos and not made up out of whole cloth.
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