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F.D.A. Links Drugs to Being Suicidal
NY Times ^ | September 14, 2004 | GARDINER HARRIS

Posted on 09/14/2004 12:23:28 PM PDT by neverdem

BETHESDA, Md., Sept. 13 - Top officials of the Food and Drug Administration acknowledged for the first time on Monday that antidepressants appeared to lead some children and teenagers to become suicidal.

Dr. Robert Temple, director of the F.D.A.'s office of medical policy, said after an emotional public hearing here that analyses of 15 clinical trials, some of which were hidden for years from the public by the drug companies that sponsored them, showed a consistent link with suicidal behavior.

"I think that we now all believe that there is an increase in suicidal thinking and action that is consistent across all the drugs,'' Dr. Temple said, summarizing the agency's presentation to a special advisory committee. "This looks like it's a true bill.''

The acknowledgement, made after the hearing, comes a year after the agency suppressed the conclusions of its own drug-safety analyst, Dr. Andrew Mosholder, who first found a link between the drugs and suicide in teenagers and children. Agency officials wrote in internal memorandums that Dr. Mosholder's analysis was unreliable, and they hired researchers at Columbia University to re-analyze the same data. That study recently reached conclusions nearly identical to Dr. Mosholder's.

The testimony came before an advisory committee of 31 independent experts that the F.D.A. has charged with making a recommendation about the labeling and use of antidepressants in children and teenagers.

Family members of suicide victims at the hearing angrily denounced agency officials for the delay in admitting the risk of antidepressants in children. The British health authorities decided in December to ban the use of most antidepressants in children and teenagers.

Mathy Milling Downing of Laytonsville, Md., whose 12-year-old daughter hanged herself in January, said: "Candace's death was entirely avoidable had we been given the appropriate warnings. "The blood of these children is on your hands.''

Agency officials said that they had no regrets about the months of study. "I don't think the data were at that time reliable,'' Dr. Temple said. "Scaring people needlessly" or overdoing a warning is worrisome, he added.

The most popular pills are Zoloft, made by Pfizer; Paxil, made by GlaxoSmithKline; and Prozac, made by Eli Lilly & Company. In 2002, nearly 11 million children and teenagers were prescribed antidepressants.

The risk of suicide among patients given the pills is very small. If 100 children and teenagers are given antidepressants, 2 or 3 will become suicidal who otherwise would not have had they been given placebos, agency officials said. None of the children in the trials committed suicide, but some thought about or attempted suicide, researchers found.

In March, the agency required antidepressant manufacturers to include on labels a warning that therapy with antidepressants could lead some patients, both adults and children, to become suicidal. The committee must decide whether this warning is strong enough or whether the drugs should be banned for children. The advisory committee is expected to make a decision on Tuesday. The F.D.A. normally follows recommendations of its advisory committees.

It is a complex task. Most studies of the drugs have failed to show that they have any effect on depression in children and teenagers. But the drugs have proven effective in adults, and studies suggest that teenage suicide rates have dropped in countries where use of antidepressants is widespread. A large study of depressed teenagers conducted by the National Institute of Mental Health recently found that Prozac was far more effective in treating depression in children and teenagers than was talk therapy.

Several speakers noted that clinicians would have almost nothing to offer depressed teenagers and children if antidepressants were banned. Suicide is the third leading cause of death among teenagers, trailing only homicide and accidents. Without treatment, many more teenagers will die, several experts said. If the committee suggests an even stronger warning, some patients will resist therapy and could perhaps die, some speakers said.

The issue has roiled the agency and is likely to transform the way the drug industry markets its products. Committees in both the House and Senate have begun investigations following disclosures that Dr. Mosholder's analysis had been suppressed.

The New York State attorney general Eliot Spitzer, filed suit against GlaxoSmithKline, charging the drug maker with fraud for failing to disclose the results of clinical trials of Paxil that found no benefit while promoting the drug to physicians. The company settled the suit this summer by promising to disclose the results of all of its clinical trials of its marketed products dating back to 2000.

Editors of the nation's top medical journals have said they will not to accept for publication trials that have not been publicly registered, and legislation is expected to be offered in both the House and the Senate requiring the disclosure of the results of all major drug tests on humans.

For some bereaved parents, Monday's hearing was a chance to take drug makers and the F.D.A. to task.

Mark and Cheryl Miller of Overland Park, Kan.,, told the committee that their 13-year-old son, Matthew, had committed suicide seven months ago while taking Zoloft.

"Why haven't parents like Cheryl and myself and countless others been told the truth?'' Mr. Miller asked.

But others said that antidepressants had helped millions. Dr. Suzanne Vogel-Sibilia of Beaver, Pa., said that she had brought her 15-year-old son, Tony, to the hearing to represent what she said were the vast majority of patients who had been helped by the drugs.

"Please help me preserve my future," Tony told the committee. "Don't take away my medication."

Claims that antidepressants cause patients to become acutely suicidal have been made since 1991, just three years after Prozac was introduced. But drug makers and regulators long dismissed these claims, saying they were anecdotal reports without any basis in rigorous clinical trials.

Then last year, GlaxoSmithKline announced that tests of Paxil had found that teenagers and children who took the pill were more likely to become suicidal than those given placebos. The announcement was quickly followed by a similar one from Wyeth, the maker of Effexor, another antidepressant. Suddenly, the anecdotal reports were being confirmed by clinical trials.

Still, just how the drugs may lead some people to become suicidal remains the subject of fierce debate. Many of those at the hearing said that the pills had brought a change in the personalities of their friends and relatives. Alice Erber said that Paxil caused her 21-year-old son, Jake Steinberg, to throw himself in June from the 24th floor of a Manhattan office building.

"If he had not taken Paxil, he would be alive today,'' Ms. Erber said.

But Dr. Temple speculated that some people taking the pills become suicidal because they are actually getting better. As their depression improves, he said, they gain the energy to act on suicidal thoughts that their illness had suppressed.

"I think the work is cut out for us tomorrow,'' Dr. Wayne Goodman, chairman of the advisory committee, said at the end of Monday's hearing.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: children; drugs; fda; health; mentalhealth; pharmaceuticals; suicideattempts; suicides; youth
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1 posted on 09/14/2004 12:23:30 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: fourdeuce82d; El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; LadyDoc; ...

ping


2 posted on 09/14/2004 12:25:40 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
Don’t know anything about it… a guy I knew long ago took some sort of drug for acne. I read the insert that listed all the potential side-effects. It was a list that you unfolded until it was about five feet long. For some reason I remember the possible side-effects including heart attack, nosebleeds, dizziness, convulsions, and included death. Literally a list four or five inches wide by about five feet long that included pretty much anything you could think of. I distinctly remember thinking that I’d rather just have the acne.

I sort of find it hard to believe that similar lists aren’t included with these medicines.

3 posted on 09/14/2004 12:37:52 PM PDT by Who dat?
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To: neverdem
The most popular pills are Zoloft, made by Pfizer; Paxil, made by GlaxoSmithKline; and Prozac, made by Eli Lilly & Company. In 2002, nearly 11 million children and teenagers were prescribed antidepressants.

And why then is our current adminstration pushing mandatory mental health screening and pushing more pills on our kids...

Of course mandatory mental health screening is also on the docet for all adult US citizens as well...

Soma time...and the living is easy....

4 posted on 09/14/2004 12:40:17 PM PDT by joesnuffy ( "Two Heads Are Better Than One"...."Unless They're On The Same Person" -Andy Sipowicz)
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To: neverdem

They have been running a story about this for the last two mornings on NPR. My 14 yr old daughter is getting ready to go on them, along with a heavy program of talk therapy. The percentage rate of suicide attempts for teens is somewhere around 1.79%......still enough to be cautious.


5 posted on 09/14/2004 12:44:01 PM PDT by killmn2004
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To: joesnuffy

.....not to mention when you take these drugs you are forbidden to ever get a firearms license. Pretty cool way to prohibit hundreds of thousands of citizens from ever owning firearms, wouldn't you say?

Give your kid Ritilin, and he'll never legally own a firearm.


6 posted on 09/14/2004 12:45:33 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Who dat?
I sort of find it hard to believe that similar lists aren’t included with these medicines.

They are product information slips included with all meds given as free samples to docs. It's the same info that you will find in a Physician's Desk Reference.

7 posted on 09/14/2004 12:49:46 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: joesnuffy
Soma time...and the living is easy....

LOL!

8 posted on 09/14/2004 12:51:13 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: taxed2death
.....not to mention when you take these drugs you are forbidden to ever get a firearms license.

Huh?

9 posted on 09/14/2004 12:55:16 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (Calvinism Fever: Catch It! (Or don't. It's not like it's going to do you any good anyway...))
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To: killmn2004
They have been running a story about this for the last two mornings on NPR. My 14 yr old daughter is getting ready to go on them, along with a heavy program of talk therapy.

I've been following this story for a while. IIRC, the first month or so of taking these meds is the danger zone for suicide attempts. If she is switched to another serotonin selective re-uptake inhibitor(SSRI) from Prozac(fluoxetine), and there later is a decision to stop SSRIs completely, there can a withdrawal reaction that's discussed in the literature. It's best to get weaned off Prozac because of its long half-life.

10 posted on 09/14/2004 1:03:20 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: killmn2004

We had a 17-year-old who hung herself this summer in our area a week after she began taking zoloft. I found out several weeks ago that a woman I've known at my church for some time is a nurse at the mental health clinic where she was placed. We discussed it--this is a woman whose judgment I respect very much--and she does not believe that the drugs had anything to do with the suicide. It seems more than coincidental to me, but she assured me that the young woman had had a lot of problems, a fact that was obvious from media accounts. This nurse believes that parents get so vocal because they want to blame someone else in their grief. I don't know enough to have an informed opinion.


11 posted on 09/14/2004 1:03:33 PM PDT by twigs
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To: neverdem

Gives 'em just enough presence of mind to do the deed, eh?


12 posted on 09/14/2004 1:06:46 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("With 64 days left, John Kerry still has time to change his mind 4 or 5 more times" - Rudy Giuliani)
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To: joesnuffy
And why then is our current adminstration pushing mandatory mental health screening and pushing more pills on our kids... Of course mandatory mental health screening is also on the docet for all adult US citizens as well...

More links...links...in the chain...

Say goodbye to all privacy..what little there is left.

"VE VILL KNOW EVERYTINK ABOUT YOU PROLETARIAT SVINE..your Blood pressure, your disposition, your allergies, your sexual problems...ve vant to know and you have no right to keep it from us!! It is for the good of all that we know this! Resist and you will be labeled a traitor!!"

13 posted on 09/14/2004 1:08:10 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Dont Mention the War
".....not to mention when you take these drugs you are forbidden to ever get a firearms license."

"Huh?"

BATF Form 4473 is what you fill out when you buy a firearm from a licensed dealer, IIRC. I went to BATF's website. You can't download it. It asks a series of questions, e.g. "Are you addicted to taking drugs or alcohol?" which if answered in the affirmative, will forbid the transaction.

14 posted on 09/14/2004 1:19:19 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: thoughtomator
Gives 'em just enough presence of mind to do the deed, eh?

The prevailing notion is that they then have energy to do the deed. Prior to taking the SSRI, they were so depressed that about all they could do was breath.

15 posted on 09/14/2004 1:23:41 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

Hard to say, the drugs do affect people differntly.
Had a bad time with a bit of depression in the past, very light dosage of Effexor XR worked wonders for my life.


16 posted on 09/14/2004 1:27:44 PM PDT by Moleman (Come on now, take the bait...)
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To: thoughtomator

That seems to be the way it works. You get to feeling well enough to die.


17 posted on 09/14/2004 1:29:06 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: neverdem
But Dr. Temple speculated that some people taking the pills become suicidal because they are actually getting better. As their depression improves, he said, they gain the energy to act on suicidal thoughts that their illness had suppressed.

Huh....

18 posted on 09/14/2004 1:35:56 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://blog.c-pol.com?)
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To: taxed2death

What are you talking about?


19 posted on 09/14/2004 1:37:36 PM PDT by jammer
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

See comment# 15.


20 posted on 09/14/2004 1:38:05 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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