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Movie highlights Kerry's 2 Vietnam roles(Going down the drain)
Boston Globe ^ | September 13, 2004 | Patrick Healy, Globe Staff

Posted on 09/14/2004 11:41:45 AM PDT by snooker

NEW YORK -- It is an image from the Vietnam era that most Americans have never seen: a somber John Forbes Kerry, then 27, speaking with a fellow veteran in 1971 about the violence of warfare that both men had participated in.

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Yet the film, which is set to open in the United States on Oct. 1, arrives at a time when many voters are skeptical of the hagiography that envelops Kerry's wartime experiences in "Going Upriver," an expression for going into battle. The movie was conceived long before a group of veterans began attacking Kerry's combat record and antiwar activism last month, but several moments in it -- particularly Kerry's remark about soldiers' "crimes," and scenes of him marching for peace and throwing away his combat ribbons at a Washington protest -- are bound to whip up these critics anew during the crucial final weeks of the 2004 campaign. Other viewers, like the Greenwich Village audience screening the film last week, will be just as impressed by the former swift boat commander's poise in the glowingly positive 92-minute picture.

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The possibility that "Going Upriver" could be exploited to hurt Kerry's candidacy was not lost on one of the film's executive producers, Bill Samuels, who asked the New York audience for their reactions to Kerry's conversation with the veteran at the so-called "Winter Soldier hearings" 33 years ago.

"That [scene] could be just grabbed by someone as a stand-alone and that could be on the news -- John soliciting someone," Samuels explained. "I happen to like it. I'm just wondering if that piece could be used as a stand-alone by the Bush people. Maybe I'm overreacting."

One audience member answered, "The Bush people are going to do their thing. What can you do?"

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: georgebutler; goingupriver
"What can you do?" uh talk about something else other than your 4 months in Vietnam? Sorry, forgot there isn't anything.

So here comes John 'Fraud' Kerry war hero -- the movie. Hope it doesn't run into any Swiftie Torpedoes :-}

The timing of this is suspicious.

1 posted on 09/14/2004 11:41:45 AM PDT by snooker
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To: snooker
John 'Fraud' Kerry war hero -- the movie
LOL!
2 posted on 09/14/2004 11:44:49 AM PDT by samtheman (www.swiftvets.com)
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To: snooker

Was this supposed to be his "PT 109" ?


3 posted on 09/14/2004 11:45:13 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: snooker

...;).Never get in the way of the enemy self destructing!


4 posted on 09/14/2004 11:45:13 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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Notice how he had that heavy Thurston Howell III accent in those early films? Where did it go? Did he go to a Lose-your-accent night class?


5 posted on 09/14/2004 11:46:21 AM PDT by Temple Drake
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many voters are skeptical of the hagiography that envelops Kerry's wartime experiences

Hagiography? Had to look that one up. Thought it was about Hillery, i.e., the biography of hags. However the official definition is:

1. Biography of saints
2. A worshipful or idealizing biography.

Excellent word choice.

6 posted on 09/14/2004 11:51:21 AM PDT by tbpiper
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"What can you do?" uh talk about something else other than your 4 months in Vietnam?


7 posted on 09/14/2004 11:52:58 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko ("Daddy, are there bad men on your planes?")
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"Thought it was about Hillery, i.e., the biography of hags."

LOL, I cannot stop laughing.


8 posted on 09/14/2004 11:53:55 AM PDT by Bahbah
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As much as he is despised, Bill Clinton is a smart politician. He has told Kerry to get off this Viet Nam thing, and Kerry just doesn't seem to be able to restrain himself. He built his entire career on his "war hero" status, and he just doesn't seem to be able to let it go. I think a movie like this will hurt him much more than it helps. No torpedoes required, it will sink like a stone.


9 posted on 09/14/2004 12:01:39 PM PDT by Crabby Appleton
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You know, this is like a movie about Clinton being nice to interns.


10 posted on 09/14/2004 12:03:27 PM PDT by Casloy
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To: snooker
Here's some info on the film from an indie film site.
11 posted on 09/14/2004 12:05:10 PM PDT by rabidralph (Doing the gloating that Republicans won't do.)
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This whole Vietnam thing is going to be Kerry's Haman gallows. Whoever advised Kerry to make this the center of his campaign has got to be a Republican genius. Like Ralph Kramsden, if I was Kerry I'd find that SOB and punch him right in the mouth.


12 posted on 09/14/2004 12:08:30 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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“Going Upriver” is upcreek.


13 posted on 09/14/2004 12:08:31 PM PDT by tractorman
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To: Temple Drake

Thereeeesa told him she would be the only one in the family with a distinctive accent.


14 posted on 09/14/2004 12:19:45 PM PDT by rod1
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