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FReeper Research Needed: What Evidence is There that the DNC or Kerry Gave CBS the Forged Docs?

Posted on 09/14/2004 5:42:26 AM PDT by jmstein7

Once again, there is an opportunity for FReeper research to make a big difference in this election.

If you have any evidence on the following questions, please post it to this thread.

1) Anything that suggests that the DNC is the source of the forged memos, i.e. that the DNC provided CBS with the forged Guard documents

2) Anything that suggests that the Kerry campaign is the source of the forged memos, i.e. that Kerry's camp provided CBS with the forged Guard documents

If we can get this evidence and make the connection, and get it out to the 'blogosphere, this election will be over.

Start digging!


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KEYWORDS: kerrygate; rathergate
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Didn't I read somewhere that copies of these documents are in Kity Kelly's new book that hasn't hardly hit the streets yet? If so, that may be an avenue to locate whom SHE got them from.


141 posted on 09/14/2004 3:02:11 PM PDT by RaccaFracca (Guns don't kill people, abortion does)
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To: jmstein7

Rush is saying what he read off the The American Spectator website which has posted an article from the Washington Prowler. The person the Prowler is talking to is only described as a CBS staffer. You can go to the Spectator's website and see for yourself.


142 posted on 09/14/2004 3:13:15 PM PDT by RaccaFracca (Guns don't kill people, abortion does)
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To: jmstein7
Better hurry...CBS is just stalling until they can find an expert forger to create extremely authentic-looking documents that replicate the content of the current hoaxes.

Then, they'll admit that the current documents are "the result of the source dictating the content of the original over the phone to a low-level flunkie journalist, who thought it would be acceptable to re-type it on a word processor. But see, here are the REAL ones, and look how the content matches, but the fonts are so 1970-ish now."
143 posted on 09/14/2004 3:28:06 PM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: jmstein7

What documents did Berger really stuff into his pants and who was he on his cell phone with as he dismissed the "library home room monitors" around him. Do you know who I am? Get lost! Now, where was I...

(sarcasm)


144 posted on 09/14/2004 3:41:59 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: finnigan2

I was simply stating a fact. The polite thing would be to explain you were being facetious, rather than be rude.
I've been here long enough to tell when someone is joking.
I've also been here long enough to see plenty of posts just like yours, where the author wasn't joking. I wasn't the only one with such a reaction to your post, so perhaps you should hone your writing skills instead of being a butt-head.


145 posted on 09/14/2004 4:11:56 PM PDT by visualops (The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist.)
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To: jmstein7

Probably because they're "inside" sources and he can't expose them. If he did .. they would lose their jobs and Rush would lose a source.

But .. you can ask Rush yourself. He might have a different reason.


146 posted on 09/14/2004 4:28:14 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: An American In Dairyland
"Having spelled out the game plan on FR, you can't really expect a Double Ought Spy plan like that to work, can you?"

- You are quite right. My proposal was meant to be tongue in cheek. To actually carry out such a proposal would be logistically impossible, especially over the internet where coordinating the activities of participants cannot really be achieved. The idea was meant only to kind of appeal to your, "if only" funny bone. Sorry if I mislead you, but thanks for the reply.
147 posted on 09/14/2004 4:50:17 PM PDT by finnigan2
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To: visualops
"......perhaps you should hone your writing skills instead of being a butt-head."

- There you go again with the condescension routine.
(Only kidding. Really.)
148 posted on 09/14/2004 5:02:57 PM PDT by finnigan2
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To: jmstein7
Rather would only be willing to walk the plank for his daughter or DNC/Kerry.

We need to prevent CBS from running out the clock!!
149 posted on 09/14/2004 5:30:54 PM PDT by oiler
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To: oiler
The more I read, the more news that breaks, the more Old Media is turns on him, I am CONVINCED Dan Rather knew they were forgeries and he is involved in the scam. Hopefully involving the DNC-catch them all in one swoop.
150 posted on 09/14/2004 5:41:26 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (What part of SHALL PASS NO LAW do they not understand?)
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To: icarix
Actually the only evidence of lack of proficiency with MS Word is the fact that the forger didn't know that buried in the AutoFormat submenu of the Format menu is an Options button which opens a menu in which you can turn off the autosuperscript. (I'm old enough to have learned the lower case L as 1 trick and to put two spaces after periods at ends of sentences--not after abbreviations--and resent your suggestion that age is likely to lead to less proficiency with Word. The design of the damn program leads to less proficiency, but I digress.)

The forger knew that lower case L's wouldn't produce the auto-superscript, and that inserting a blank between the numerals and the suffix would also prevent it. In all but two cases, he or she remembered this, but slipped up twice leaving the tell-tale superscripts. As well as leaving the tell-tale spaces in all but one of the ordinals not ending in a 1 (done as a lower case L).

I think the evidence points to someone who was so used to using MS Word in its default version that he or she never thought about going in to turn off the defaults, who knew that old typewriters required lower case L's as 1's and found that putting a space into the ordinals would suppress the superscripts. The forger got sloppy and left two. No one typing either on an old typewriter or in MS Word would put spaces into ordinals, unless they were doing so precisely because it was the only way they knew to suppress the autosuperscript. Even if the forger had remembered in every case so that there were no superscripts, the typeface, perfectly centered proportional type address, and the uses of 147 th instead of 147th, and the like, would be enough to prove them forgeries.

151 posted on 09/14/2004 9:34:37 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know what this was)
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To: jmstein7

See the Kerry-Edwards web site, press releases, April 27.

"Unanwered questions about National Guard duty"

Either Dan Rather wrote it, read it, or had it read to the forger;

or the forger wrote his memo's, and the dnc read the forger's memo's.

It is a word-by-word repeat of the show.


152 posted on 09/16/2004 3:06:14 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: TBP

The best evidence is that Burkett, his lawyer, and Rather's daughter are tied in to the Democrat organization in Taylor County (the Abilene Area.)


153 posted on 09/16/2004 11:25:53 AM PDT by TBP
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To: floriduh voter

Where is it on the front page?

Here's a pdf link.

154 posted on 09/16/2004 1:30:17 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Kerry lied and good men died, and Moms worried, and heroes were spit on, and children were ostraci..)
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To: jmstein7
Why don't you summarize what you have from this thread which started before we learned about the Kinko's fax and use it to start a new thread?

What you are doing here is very important and I'm afraid it may get lost if you don't issue some sort of a summary update.

155 posted on 09/16/2004 1:36:56 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: InterceptPoint

Good idea... I'm on it.


156 posted on 09/16/2004 1:54:05 PM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound by the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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To: nutmeg

bookmark bump


157 posted on 01/10/2005 7:41:52 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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