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1 posted on 09/14/2004 2:26:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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***The controversy has brewed a new blog — Rathergate.com — which calls for Rather's resignation. ***

Another site that's been around for a long time:

RatherBiased.com

2 posted on 09/14/2004 2:28:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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"THEY ARE REAL! I TYPED THEM UP RIGHT HERE! WHY WON'T THE MASSES BELIEVE ME???????"
3 posted on 09/14/2004 2:30:28 AM PDT by gunnygail (Founding member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. (I operate the minigun, more fun):.)
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I am not wise enough to know what I really want. Half of me wants the President to stay above this fray, stay on message and go about winning re-election. The other half of me wants the President to take this opportunity to do something even bigger...landing a big blow in the even more important culture wars.

If the President directly denounces CBS's story as a politically motivated forgery by biased media, it will force MSM scrutiny. And Rather's story will collapse like a house of cards, along with CBS's credibility. It will also call into question other MSM credibility to a much larger group of people. He has the option of adding media bias to the major political issues of the day. That will not likely help him in this election...it would earn him the undying enmity of the left stream media. But it would be very good in the long term.


7 posted on 09/14/2004 2:38:45 AM PDT by blanknoone ("New Media? Where is that?" Dan Rather aka Dem Blather)
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It drags CBS' credibility a notch

Quite a commentary on the current state of credibility of CBS that a screw-up of this magnitude only drags CBS' credibility "a notch."

10 posted on 09/14/2004 2:43:43 AM PDT by KevinB
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"But CBS used several techniques to make sure these papers should be taken seriously, talking to handwriting and document analysts and other experts who strongly insist the documents could have been created in the '70s,"

...or the 80's or the 90's. I thought Kerry topped the scale for arrogant. It's a friggin' tie.

17 posted on 09/14/2004 3:08:14 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (What part of SHALL PASS NO LAW do they not understand?)
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But CBS used several techniques to make sure these papers should be taken seriously

Extremely interesting choice of words. Most journalists would have used several techniques to ensure the documents were genuine.

18 posted on 09/14/2004 3:09:48 AM PDT by USNBandit (Florida military absentee voter number 537.)
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It may be that CBS is the victim of a whopping journalistic hoax, besmearing a president to bring him down," New York Times columnist William Safire wrote in his nationally syndicated column, published Monday in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Or it may be that Dan Rather and the Editorial staff at CBS are a bunch of partisan hacks who are trying to influence the outcome of an election, and are prepared to sacrifice their credibility to do it.

19 posted on 09/14/2004 3:14:22 AM PDT by tcostell
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Has Kerry addressed the National Guard yet? I'd heard that he was scheduled to, but can't remember exactly when.


20 posted on 09/14/2004 3:26:41 AM PDT by mass55th (It's the superscript, stupid!!!!)
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Safire concluded with a direct address to Rather: "Hey, Dan: On this, recognize the preponderance of doubt. Call for a panel of old CBS hands and independent editors to re-examine sources and papers. Courage."

To which Rather would respond:

"Hey Bill: I already made a semi-limited hangout. Now I'm in my stonewll mode in order to let CBS News twist slowly in the wind. What's the frequency, Bill?"

26 posted on 09/14/2004 3:42:37 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (I hereby nominate Buckhead as the FREEPER OF THE YEAR!!!)
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what we consider to be reliable sources

these papers should be taken seriously

experts who strongly insist the documents could have been created in the '70s

Lots of wiggle room in their defense, I'd say...

28 posted on 09/14/2004 3:54:24 AM PDT by vrwinger (Tagline? I don't need no stinkin' TAGLINE!)
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Even first lady Laura Bush has joined the fray, saying in a radio interview Monday that the documents are likely forgeries "and I think that's terrible, really."

Anybody here believe that the Prez would send his wife out to lie for him? I'm not one of them...

38 posted on 09/14/2004 4:35:49 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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Rather quoted a White House spokesman as saying, "As you know, we have repeatedly addressed these issues."

And this Rather considers a mortal sin, the fact that the White House has answered all these questions over the years. And didn't want to get involved with Rather's latest make believe story. Dan rather is not a serious journalist, never has been. He's an aging and petulent left wing jerk.

43 posted on 09/14/2004 5:09:39 AM PDT by Williams
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MEMO

TO: Dan Rather

SUBJECT: Holes, Pits, Craters, Hollows, Wells, ect...

Dan,

Quit digging.

50 posted on 09/14/2004 6:30:25 AM PDT by The_Victor
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The docs are forgeries but just for an interesting intellectual exercise let's suppose they weren't.

Mr. Rather what's the big deal if Bush snuck out of TANG a little early?

Rater: It speaks to his character.

So what?

Rater: It shows he's irresponsible. That he can't be trusted witht he nuclear football.

Well, why was this not a consideration with Clinton? His bodyguard was accusing him of smuggling cocaine for Pete's sake. State police said he was using them to procure women.

Rater: They were clearly kooks and screwballs. You can't take the words of kooks and screwballs seriously. Right, Kenneth. Kenneth. I have the frequency. Courage.

54 posted on 09/14/2004 7:05:11 AM PDT by Tribune7
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John F. Kerry Timeline of a traitor

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Kerry's disrespect in 1971
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63 posted on 09/14/2004 8:32:55 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOUR YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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Who really cares whether or not the memos are authentic?
Even if they are for real (which I do not believe they are), who gives a rat's ass whether or not George W. Bush showed up for a routine physical exam 38 years ago?
GWB never gave aid & comfort to the enemy.
GWB never went before Congress and falsely testified against his fellow officers and enlisted men who were still in combat.
GWB didn't hang out with Jane Fonda under the Viet Cong banner.


65 posted on 09/14/2004 8:41:02 AM PDT by ppaul
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