[Travis McGee]

Brilliant detective work!

[Wil H]

Also, I recall one memo uses the acronym NLT, but spells it out first, so it reads "not later than (NLT)"

Why would you use an acronym if you are going to use the longhand version as well?

Doesn't make sense or is some peculiarlity of the military?

It looks to me as if the forger looked up the acronym in some lexicon and pasted it along with it's explanation, by mistake.

[tophat9000]

You might also want to look at this
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-09-09bushdocs.pdf
This is a link to the fake bush docs with the two new one... look at the first one and you will see it notes two offices Bush & Bath ... now look and the following on page ten
http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/11-4_2004_Personnel_File.pdf

It has it list the flight status suspension for Bush on Aug 1… and just under is a second officer flight status suspension on Sept 1 that second officer name is redacted (blackout) … however on the Kerry site there is the same paper but without the name being redacted (blackout)… and that name is Bath… question is how did the Kerry camp get an un redacted copy and did the forger uses it to come up with the name Bath and I would be curious to see if this Bath name is someone that Killian would have is a memo ant the same time as Bush

Finally just Fyi look at page ten of the following to get and idea of the Al. posting
http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/6-Reassignments_Spilt_Training.pdf

[aruanan]

Great!

[mass55th]

Campanini (and I can't remember his rank), who appeared on Fox News last week, raised this question about OETR. He said that abbreviation was wrong, that it was OER.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Things that make you want to go "Hhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmnnnnnn."

[jmstein7]

BUMP!

[visualops]

ping

[YaYa123]

I"m loving this!!! (from the link provided)

"""I’m an active duty USAF Lt Col with 19 years in and wanted to add that the OETR/OER/OPR flap is likely just another nail in Dan Rather’s coffin.

To clarify:
OER (Officer Effectiveness Report...AF Form 707B--Company Grade Officers) was used to describe officer reports until 1988 (my last OER was dated May 88)

The acronym OPR (Officer Performance Report, still AF Form 707B--Company Grade Officer) replaced the OER in 1988.

Training reports (AF Form 475 since 1983, at least) are called Education/Training Reports and are used for either officers or enlisted personnel.

There is no Officer Effectiveness Training Report (OETR) currently nor can I find any evidence that there ever has been. It’s quite likely that whoever concocted this document simply made the erroneous assumption that an Education/Training Report (E/TR or ETR) would have both an officer and enlisted version.

Not a bad assumption since performance reports are different for officers and enlisted. It’s just that training reports aren’t! We all get the same form. And, FWIW, we don’t refer to training reports as “ETR"s...believe it or not, we just call them training reports (one of the few exceptions to the military rule to shorten everything). Whoever did this just showed they don’t know the USAF. I won’t even bother with “memo for file”...WTF? It’s Memo For Record!!!!""

[William Terrell]

Does anyone not think that the forger could have easily used a vintage typewriter, like those used for real 1970's memos, and a few copies of legitimate AF memos to produce something that was indistinguishable from the real thing? The question is why didn't he/she? Why fake a document that is so obviously fake, when to do it right would have taken very little extra time and effort?

Hatred of Bush, arrogance of the media and perceived stupidity of the Bush campaign and general public, lust to get Bush fast tracking the memos without scrutiny? Bullbutter. These people are not stupid, nor are they fools, nor are they incompetent.

I believe that the fakes were meant to be discovered and create controversy. Any theory as to the source(s), in my opinion, has to take into consideration this undeniable truth. You connect the dots.

Myself, I think it very reasonable that Billary & Co. produced the docs with the knowledge and willing collusion of CBS to out them, knowing ti will be blamed on the Kerry campaign. Dan Rather? Maybe he's ready for retirement anyway.

Very probably, again we are just being led around by the rings in our noses, lapping up the duck soup and implementing the plan.

[Hatteras]

BUMTP...

[LincolnLover]

Is this a bad ass post or what? Very cool.

[LincolnLover]

More OER vs OETR discussion (sorry if posted elsewhere already) here .