This raises the age old philosophical question: If the Newspaper of Record died decades ago and no one noticed, did it ever live?
Posted on 09/13/2004 7:25:17 AM PDT by CJ-net
Buy a crossword book and quit supporting one of the enemies of our Republic
Good grief! You can go to most any bookstore and purchase a book full of NYT crossword puzzles .. if that's REALLY all you're interested in.
I had easy access to the NYT in college but rarely read it. My next point of access was in the early 80's when Reagan was Prez. I loved it then because when he gave a speech, it (in its function as newspaper of record) would reprint the speech in its entirety. When Bush #41 was in office, the speech reprints became fewer and the lifestyle supplements "edgier". But, generally, the business section rivaled the WSJ.
I've never read it for its front page coverage or editorials. However, when Clinton ran in 1992, they ran an editorial from their sacred cow, William Safire, claiming that true conservatives should abandon GHW Bush, who was no longer carrying the banner of true conservatism. Republicans should hold their noses and vote for Clinton and teach the Republicans a lesson. Well, thanks to Safire the rest of us sure as heck learned our lesson--all 8 bloody years of it! And the stink from Clinton was more than any nose-holding would keep at bay! I've truly disliked Safire ever since.
We dropped the paper after the Clinton election because everything changed. The business section became fluff promotional in tone and the speeches were not reprinted but spun, unless it was one that they wanted to show Clinton's gravitas--awful. We dropped the paper.
While we didn't have the paper we were out-of-the-loop and not knowing what the enemy was thinking. The first rule of warfare is to know the enemy. We re-subscribed. We get our news from FNC, Rush, and the internet but scan the rest of the bunk NYT Corp prints. The crossword puzzles are my dessert for sifting through the rest of their "fertilizer".
BTW, next time you'll have to tell your friend that her husband was right about the Times--it DOES make good fish-wrap, absorbs bacon grease like a sponge, shines up windows like crystal, and can pack glassware with the best of 'em!
It's not dead, it just smells funny.
Uh...not sure what you're talking about. I can't stand crossword puzzles. Must have been another Freeper.
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Dan Rather’s Blunder: The Day Old Media Died?
WashingtonDispatch ^ | September 13, 2004 | CK Rairden
Posted on 09/13/2004 11:34:02 AM PDT by NewMediaFan
--snip-- Armed with these memos and a partisan Kerry hack named Ben Barnes, Rather carefully laid out his case. After an interview with Barnes on the program, Rather emerged with “newly uncovered” memos that he believed would damage the president’s chances at re-election. One said that a Guard official was "pushing to sugar coat" Bush's training evaluation. It was cleverly titled “CYA.” So clever--it almost seemed unbelievable. To some folks, it was.
For a few hours, Rather must have been on top of the old media world. It seemed as if this had been handled so clean, and now his old media cohorts would dispatch reporters to demand answers from the president about his Texas National Guard service for the umpteenth time. They would turn this Viet Nam table upside down on the president and hammer him, freeing up their candidate John F. Kerry. But a funny thing happened on the way to the old media lynching of George W. Bush.
The new media stepped in...
They quickly made Dan Rather and old media’s fading credibility the issue. Ben Barnes’ daughter made phone calls early the next day to talk radio stations to politely call her dad a partisan hack and a liar. She was very reluctant to criticize her father but came off as humble and credible while he came off as nothing more than a Kerry operative. Ben Barnes credibility was damaged beyond repair. But it shouldn’t have mattered as Dan Rather still had those “blockbuster memos” that would damage President Bush’s re-election hopes.
According to the LA Times, that began unraveling about 19 minutes after the program ended...
bump
The "Grey Lady" has been the "Senile Old Bat" for far too long.
LOL I love your response on what I should tell my friend. Thanks!
This raises the age old philosophical question: If the Newspaper of Record died decades ago and no one noticed, did it ever live?
EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I just heard Rush say that"Pinchie"Sultzberger was speaking at some university in "Fly Over Country"and he was TRashing Talk Radio!!!!!
CBS isn't the only liberal media organ to find itself on the defensive. Blogger Edward Morrissey notes that Arthur "Pinch" Sulzberger Jr., publisher of the New York Times, delivered a vintage whine at Kansas State University yesterday:
The publisher of The New York Times complained Monday about what he called a cheapening of the public debate but said he thinks news organizations can improve the situation.
Arthur O. Sulzberger Jr., speaking at Kansas State University, said newspapers and broadcast stations that try to give unbiased information face increased skepticism and even cynicism from the public.
Morrissey gives an example of why people are right to be skeptical and even cynical about the Times' claims that they "try to give unbiased information": The Times devoted 70 stories to Joe Wilson's various claims about Niger, uranium, his "secret agent" wife, etc., but only three stories to the collapse of Wilson's credibility.
Sulzberger also "expressed concern about what he said was the growing shrillness of political debate":
He criticized talk radio for too often having a "trial by insult format," television programs that provide little more than "barroom chatter" and authors who increase book sales by becoming more shrill in their writing.
Gee, Pinch, would that include Maureen Dowd and former Enron adviser Paul Krugman?
-- BEST OF THE WEB TODAY, Sep. 14, 2004
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