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Critics countered on Kerry record of inactive service
Boston Globe ^ | Sept. 10, 2004 | Michael Kranish

Posted on 09/12/2004 5:23:05 PM PDT by FairOpinion

Kerry won early release and was transferred to the Naval Reserve, which the Kerry presidential campaign says required that Kerry do no more than report his whereabouts in case of an emergency call-up. In the past, Kerry has estimated he shaved between two and five months from his active duty; this week, a campaign spokesman said it saved about six weeks.

"He had no obligation," Kerry spokesman Michael Meehan said.

"The only obligation was that he inform the Navy where he could be reached."

Separately, both Keith and Korb raised questions about the way Kerry, who was a Naval Reserve officer at the time, was attired when he testified before the Senate against the war in April 1971. They noted that Kerry was wearing a fatigue-type shirt with military ribbons on his chest. Korb said that it was "technically incorrect" for an officer to wear the ribbons while testifying against the war. Keith said Kerry had the right to speak as a private citizen but should not have worn what appears to be a military uniform at the time.

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Can someone explaine why is it that Kerry in the reserve was only required to report his whereabouts, while Bush was supposed to show up for drills in 1972-73, according to the Democrats.

And what about the point about his testimony in front of the Senate?

1 posted on 09/12/2004 5:23:06 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

Also:

"Kerry entered the Naval Reserve in February 1966, when he signed up for Officer Training School"

Kerry was in the Naval Reserve, NOT "in the Navy".

The DNC is planning to make a big deal that Bush said he was in the Air Force, when in fact the Air National Guard IS the reserve component of the Air Force.

If "sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander", than Kerry is NOT entitled to claim he served in the Navy either, because he was in the Navy Reserves.


2 posted on 09/12/2004 5:26:07 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: FairOpinion

Probably inactive reserves.


3 posted on 09/12/2004 5:31:51 PM PDT by vmivol00
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To: FairOpinion

Men returning from duty in Vietnam were not "required" to attend meetings and drills with men who had not seen combat action,is what a Vietnam vet wrote on this site not long ago.


4 posted on 09/12/2004 5:32:13 PM PDT by stockpirate (Dick Morris; Before he spoke, supporting Bush was a duty one owed to the fallen. Now, it is an honor)
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To: FairOpinion

Better then that, I want to know why my husband was REQUIRED to show up for 2 years of weekend reserve duty for 2 years after he got out of active military. It's totally not fair and one of the reason my husband absolutely hates Kerry.


5 posted on 09/12/2004 5:32:29 PM PDT by Merry
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To: FairOpinion

If you go to the WWW.JohnKerry web site, you will find the following quote:


"1966-1970
United States Navy
Volunteered for duty in Vietnam where he earned three Purple Hearts, the Silver Star and the Bronze Star."

If he was in the Navy and not in the Naval Reserve as you indicate, and they plan to make an issue of President Bush having served in the Reserve rather than in the Air Force, it would seem to be another case of the pot calling the kettle black.

As a side note, it seems that they forgot to report that he successfully received 4 draft deferments and applied for his fifth which was denied before he joined the Reserve.


6 posted on 09/12/2004 5:35:49 PM PDT by JustTheTruth
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To: FairOpinion

Was he getting government pay after he came state side? If he was and he was involved with a group aiding NV, shouldn't he still be in the brig?


7 posted on 09/12/2004 5:38:30 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Ask Questions. Surf The Net. Find The Truth.)
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To: FairOpinion

Please don't educate them....let them make a fool of themselves again! LOL


8 posted on 09/12/2004 5:40:59 PM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: Merry
Your husband undoubtedly was required to show up for 2 years of weekend reserve duty for 2 years after he got out of active military because:

1. The Viet Nam War was over.

2. He didn't ask them if he could get out of it.

3. His MOS was one of those special deals and they wanted him around ~ personnel records specialists who understand anything are usually vital to a reserve unit's existence.

4. John Kerry pulled strings to keep your husband on.

5. Maybe a bit of all of the above

Anyway, I didn't have to do reserve meetings because there were NO reserve billets available in my area (Washington DC) because political geeks dodging the draft had filled them (often after paying large sums of money to others with influence).

Next time this happens to him, have him relocate to an area where there are no reserve billets available.

9 posted on 09/12/2004 5:43:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: FairOpinion

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Can someone explaine why is it that Kerry in the reserve was only required to report his whereabouts, while Bush was supposed to show up for drills in 1972-73, according to the Democrats.
And what about the point about his testimony in front of the Senate?
*******

It is simple: Kranish is a Kerry butt boy.


10 posted on 09/12/2004 5:45:09 PM PDT by punster
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To: stockpirate

If this is true, then Kerry needs to provide documentation.
according to his contract he had an obligation for a combined 5 years of active service and ready reaserve, and 1 year in the inactive reserve. See item 4 of:
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Officer_Candidate_Agreement.pdf


11 posted on 09/12/2004 5:46:23 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (Kerry is Toast du Francai')
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To: FairOpinion

By the way, Korb was forced out of Defense by Weinberger, and he has been working with libs ever since. The Golbe uses him as an authority by labeling him a Reagan official, which is not the full story. This is a piece of crap newspaper.


12 posted on 09/12/2004 5:49:10 PM PDT by holdonnow
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To: holdonnow

Oops ... Globe


13 posted on 09/12/2004 5:49:47 PM PDT by holdonnow
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To: FairOpinion

Great stuff!

This should be seen by everyone! CSPAN will replay it early 1:57 AM ET tomorrow.

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Warner, Jim, Prisoner of War
Burkett, B. G., Author
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O'Neill, John E., Spokesman, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth
Bailey, Larry, President, Vietnam Vets for the Truth


14 posted on 09/12/2004 5:49:50 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: FairOpinion
They noted that Kerry was wearing a fatigue-type shirt with military ribbons on his chest.

We only wore ribbons on our dress uniform - not fatigues.

15 posted on 09/12/2004 5:51:41 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Graybeard - Illinois resident - Keyes voter)
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To: ProudVet77

Here is what the article says:

"Kerry entered the Naval Reserve in February 1966, when he signed up for Officer Training School. He served two tours of duty, including a 4½-month combat tour in Vietnam. Kerry's normal combat tour would have been one year, but he was allowed to leave early after receiving three purple hearts. Kerry then moved to Brooklyn, where he served as an aide to Admiral Walter F. Schlech.

In his Nov. 21, 1969, memo requesting an early release from active duty, Kerry wrote that he wanted to follow his political aspirations.

Schlech, who is no longer living, granted the early release. Kerry was then transferred to the Naval Reserve as of Jan. 3, 1970, and placed on inactive duty, according to naval records."

Looks like he did less than 4 years of active duty and ready reserve.

Same question I asked before -- why is it OK for Kerry to ask for permission, get it and leave early, but when Bush did something similar that is practically treated as a crime?


16 posted on 09/12/2004 5:52:01 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: muawiyah
In the '60's and '70's (and maybe into the '80's) ... the requirement for service was SIX YEARS!

That 6 year requirement could be worked a variety of ways.

The most common arrangement was 4 years of active duty and then 2 years of Inactive Reserve (non-drilling, but recallable in a national emergency.)

Other variations were lesser terms of active duty, followed by drilling reserve time, and maybe some inactive time. For example, I served with a 2 x 4 - who had a 2 year active duty commitment followed by 4 years of DRILLING reserve time ...

But as to J.F'n.Kerry - we really don't know what he did or what his actual requirements were, or how he filled them, because HE controls the release of all paperwork. He has refused to sign a SF180 which would allow the NAVY to release papers. He gets papers and then HE releases them - perhaps after a little playing around with a word-processor and a xerox machine ... where he could possibly modify the paperwork (by editing out information that might be harmful to his career). We won't know until he signs a SF180 and releases the paperwork!

Mike

17 posted on 09/12/2004 5:52:59 PM PDT by Vineyard
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To: ProudVet77

Just to add. Here is his orders to go from the Ready Reserve to the Standby Reserve on 01JUL72.
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Transfer_To_Standby_Reserve.pdf
So while he was giving aid and comfort to the NV he was an officer in the USNR. Throw the UCMJ at him.


18 posted on 09/12/2004 5:53:27 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (Kerry is Toast du Francai')
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To: FairOpinion
Can someone explaine why is it that Kerry in the reserve was only required to report his whereabouts, while Bush was supposed to show up for drills in 1972-73, according to the Democrats.

A question many have asked

That and why Kerry won't sign the 180 form

19 posted on 09/12/2004 5:54:44 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: Merry
Don't know how it is now but it used to be that the military obligation was 6 years.

I served 4 years active duty and 2 years inactive reserves. I didn't attend any meetings either.

It might have something to do with how much time your husband spent on active duty.

20 posted on 09/12/2004 5:55:43 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Graybeard - Illinois resident - Keyes voter)
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