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Top Aid to Kerry declares Iraq worse than Vietnam!
Fox News Sunday | September 12TH 2004 | Interview with Chris Wallace

Posted on 09/12/2004 4:07:59 PM PDT by Presto

Today on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace, one of Senator Kerry’s top advisors, former Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, declared that the situation in Iraq is worse than America’s defeat in Vietnam.

Here is the excerpt from that interview:

WALLACE: ...I want to give you, as one of his top advisers, a chance to clear that up. We're going to first play a series of statements by the senator and also one by one of his opponents in the Democratic primaries. Take a look.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS)

U.S. SENATOR JOHN KERRY, D-MA: I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him and I support the fact that we did disarm him.

HOWARD DEAN, FORMER GOVERNOR OF VERMONT: I think this was the wrong war at the wrong time. KERRY: It's the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time.

(END VIDEO CLIPS)

WALLACE: Ambassador Holbrooke, simple question: Does John Kerry now support the decision to take Saddam Hussein out of power or not?

HOLBROOKE: As I just said, Chris, twice in 1998 and 2002, John...

WALLACE: That's not the question I'm asking you, sir. I'm asking you, does he support the decision now to disarm and oust Saddam Hussein?

HOLBROOKE: Let me try to answer, Chris, and then I want to make a general comment about what I consider a very one-sided coverage of this issue. Because it's President Bush who's changed his positions much more than anyone else.

WALLACE: If I may, sir, I'd like to get an answer to my question. Does he support disarming Saddam Hussein or not?

HOLBROOKE: Senator Kerry has supported getting rid of Saddam Hussein from the beginning. But giving the authority to the president is quite different from the president taking that authority and creating a mess worse than Vietnam, which is the mess we are now in. And the effort to find Senator Kerry's nanonuanced differences in his position, as opposed to the massive changes in the Bush administration's position, is quite...

WALLACE: Wait a minute, Mr. Ambassador. You're telling me that you think that Iraq is worse than Vietnam?

HOLBROOKE: Yes. It is strategically worse than Vietnam.

You can read the whole interview at: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132156,00.html


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: armchairnobodies; clintonistas; holbrooke; iraq; kerry; napalminthemorning; vietnam
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To: Truth666; Presto
Holbrooke & Albright - Clnton's lieutenants in implementing the BIG LIE

WholeyBroke and NotBright..........what a combo!

41 posted on 09/12/2004 4:52:36 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza)
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To: Presto

I'm beginning to think they are sure they have dumbed down the population enough through the public school system that all those people who weren't around during Vietnam or the Depression would buy this crap. They certainly don't teach about it anymore.


42 posted on 09/12/2004 4:54:13 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: Presto
Gee, I wonder if we're ravaging the country in a manner reminiscent of Jenjis Khan?
43 posted on 09/12/2004 4:56:12 PM PDT by correctthought (Hippies, want to change the world, but all they ever do is smoke pot and smell bad)
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To: ScottFromSpokane

I won't vote for him WITHOUT enthusiasm. Like John O'neill, I would rather vote for no one.


44 posted on 09/12/2004 4:57:04 PM PDT by Lovergirl (Bush/Cheney / 4 more years)
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To: xm177e2
Kerry has Aids?

Kooties for sure.

45 posted on 09/12/2004 4:57:24 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: dennisw; Fedora; Mitchell
HOLBROOKE: Senator Kerry has supported getting rid of Saddam Hussein from the beginning. But giving the authority to the president is quite different from the president taking that authority and creating a mess worse than Vietnam, which is the mess we are now in. And the effort to find Senator Kerry's nanonuanced differences in his position, as opposed to the massive changes in the Bush administration's position, is quite...

Holbrooke comes from the difficult position that Iraq was on the plate before 2000, and Kerry always supported Saddam's overthrow by military force. Yet he tries to fit into the recent Kerry talking points that American policy toward Saddam was invented in January 2001 and that Bush should have waited in 2003 because France would have saved the day. His use of "nanonuanced" shows his complete lack of competence - reminding Kerry of an epithet against Kerry can do no good.

46 posted on 09/12/2004 4:58:21 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Presto

Cheney was right! Maybe not short term, but long term we are gonna get hit if we don't defeat this and transform the middle east....


47 posted on 09/12/2004 4:59:57 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/welfare.htm)
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To: Impeach the Boy

Vietnam is not a good parallel. The best parallel for continuing occupations, on a smaller scale, is Bosnia and Kosovo.

Where's the exit plan for those two?


48 posted on 09/12/2004 5:00:14 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: John Jorsett

I guess the Great Depression wasn't nearly as bad as the history books would have it after all. And we'll find soon enough that Vietnam was a rather stunning victory for America--at least if it weren't for John F. Kerry and his band of traitors.


49 posted on 09/12/2004 5:00:21 PM PDT by dufekin (President Kerry would have our enemies partying like it's 1969, when Kerry first committed treason.)
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To: ScottFromSpokane

Kerry's campaign changes its positions several times a day. Unless you accept the (unstated) premise, for example, that Benedict Arnold was the most heroic general ever to serve in the United States Army (which I have no doubt that Kerry does), it's impossible to discover a coherent theme to his "Benedict Arnold company" issue position.


50 posted on 09/12/2004 5:02:44 PM PDT by dufekin (President Kerry would have our enemies partying like it's 1969, when Kerry first committed treason.)
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To: Darkwolf377

Read this, maybe you will begin to understand the MINDS we are dealing with.


51 posted on 09/12/2004 5:04:07 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN

"Kerry is mentally ill.
His obsession with Vietnam consumes his life.
America is beginning to understand his sickness."

It's called "guilt" - for what he did after his service. He's created an alternative Patriotic Rambeaux of the Mekong story for himself.

I don't think it's just political - a different history created to counteract the truer history. His story is littered with fantastical CIA agents, Cambodia capers, and even a bogus flying dog (no kidding!) story. He's got "issues" - mental ones.


52 posted on 09/12/2004 5:04:45 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Presto

I guess if you are looking at the candidates favorables, I guess Iraq might be worse then Vietnam for them.


53 posted on 09/12/2004 5:05:26 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: savedbygrace
HOLBROOKE: Yes. It is strategically worse than Vietnam.

He only says that because we won.

We have a winner. Kerry opposes the United States and sees Vietnam as the seminal issue in this campaign even three decades after he lost the war for the United States by serving so valiantly as an enemy propagandist for the Democratic Republic of Vietnam. He sees Iraq as such a strategic blunder by comparison because the wrong side--the Americans--are winning. If elected President, Kerry will conspire with the terrorists against America.

54 posted on 09/12/2004 5:05:50 PM PDT by dufekin (President Kerry would have our enemies partying like it's 1969, when Kerry first committed treason.)
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To: Presto
Iraq worse than Vietnam?

Absolutely... of course, it depends on which side you are viewing things from.

Thanks to traitors like JF'nKerry, Vietnam was pretty good for the forces of World Socialism... The US is winning the Iraq war, squeezing the insurgents to death like a python, and standing tall while the axis of socialists from hollywood to caracas to havana to massachusetts to madrid to pyonyang try their best and come up empty, and the US resolve gets stronger, all the while events like the slaughter or children in russia show that the US was correct in assessing 9/11 and what we are up against...

55 posted on 09/12/2004 5:06:57 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: Just mythoughts

"Read this, maybe you will begin to understand the MINDS we are dealing with."



I commented on this already. What a crew they are. I can't even begin to describe my feelings of contempt for them, and their intellectual dishonesty--have they learned nothing from history?


56 posted on 09/12/2004 5:07:23 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Just mythoughts

"Read this, maybe you will begin to understand the MINDS we are dealing with."



I commented on this already. What a crew they are. I can't even begin to describe my feelings of contempt for them, and their intellectual dishonesty--have they learned nothing from history?


57 posted on 09/12/2004 5:07:25 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Tax Government

Post #18 you truly nailed it.


58 posted on 09/12/2004 5:10:19 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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To: lancer
If you knew Holbrooke's record, this would come as no surprise: Clinton butt-boy at State Dept.

Yes, and the Kerry Kampaign no doubt thinks that the sun, moon and stars shine out of his backside!

59 posted on 09/12/2004 5:11:16 PM PDT by albertp (Malice in Blunderland, The Wizard of Odd, Gullible's Troubles! Steal the wealth, spread the poverty.)
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To: Presto

What defeat?? and has this half a man ever been in Iraq?


60 posted on 09/12/2004 5:12:27 PM PDT by Fast1
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