Pentagon seeks ideas to fight 'urban' wars

Washington Times ^ | Sunday, September 12, 2004 | By Jennifer Harper

[ExSoldier]

His A-Teams came in succession from Captain to Major and he was well respected enough by these warriors that they accepted his invitation for a New Years Party. You know what? You can insult me all you want to (if you've read my about page, you know I keep a good supply of tinfoil on hand), but "Chief" I don't think you get to insult twenty years of honorable and decorated service in places dark and deadly unless you've been there, too. Just what was your MOS? Supply? Aviation? If you were a Cobra driver or Apache guy you've got my respect. But why won't you show respect to those who DID THE DEED?

[CWOJackson]

"You can insult me all you want to..."

No need to, your infantile blathering and imaginary bunker buddies does that job well enough.

[ExSoldier]

Like I said, chief, WARRANTs are just a spec four with a "O" Club card. You may now go out and play with the other kiddies.

[CWOJackson]

"Like I said, chief, WARRANTs are just a spec four with a "O" Club card."

Sure...and you called them sir. As for going out and playing with children, I probably haven't associated with people like you and your imaginary commando buddies since around the age of 6 or 7.

But don't let that distract you or get your camo panties in a knot. Remember, if you tick off the ward orderlies they'll make your A-Team buddies leave and take away your Rambo sheets. Play nice.

[Old Professer]

Because we're fighting a culture, not an army.

[CWOJackson]

Perhaps you should just put your Barry Sadler 8-Track back on and tell Mr. T your problems.

[Lancer_N3502A]

Any Questions?

[ExSoldier]

Sure...and you called them sir.

Only the ones that earned my respect. And THEY all started out calling me sir first, even before I proved I was a good officer. Most of the others are like you.

[CWOJackson]

"Only the ones that earned my respect."

LOL! I always did enjoy cleaning your type off my boots after installing a little education. Thanks for the memories.

[1rudeboy]

You just know there are some old concentration camp threads in the archives . . . I've never been able to find one. Those were a hoot.

[CWOJackson]

Try Keywords "buchanan + uncle"

[Doe Eyes]

and made an example of the other 100,000.

Oh yeah, the Al Qaeda method (though they kill in smaller numbers). I don't believe in killing women and children.

[ExSoldier]

I always did enjoy cleaning your type off my boots after installing a little education.

Coming in "Broken and Stupid, over."

Speaking of memories, I had a Spec/4 once tried a little wall to wall counselling on me. The MP's picked him up at the emergency room. He went to Leavenworth Military Prison. I'll bet you know him. In fact I'll also bet you had a lot of run ins with commissioned officer types. I'd love to see your EER/OERs.

[CWOJackson]

"The MP's picked him up at the emergency room."

Of course they did...the poor slob was probably choking so hard over your manly wrist flailing that he was unable to breath. Of course you could always get your A-Team buddies to go and finish him off.

[nomad]

What about using genetic engineering to place the gene for Capsicum in some growth medium, like the Humilin type of engineered human insulin. Then process the stuff by the ton, and using a hot plate method, launch clouds of the stuff down wind.

Its biodegradable and fairly harmless. They use it in pepper spray, but have you ever been in a kitchen where someone is roasting HOT chili peppers? Good god that stuff is brutal, and its in a gaseous form so it invades every part of the house!

[Poohbah]

That didn't happen in urban fighting.

You are incorrect, sir.

We simply flattened the places.

And then fought an equally exsanguinary campaign in what was left.

The Russian Army "flattened" Grozny, and still bled for every inch of the place.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

I wasn't talking about the Russians. The Russians turned every battle they fought, in WWI and WWII, win, lose or draw, into meat grinders.

[Poohbah]

I wasn't talking about the Russians. The Russians turned every battle they fought, in WWI and WWII, win, lose or draw, into meat grinders.

OK, you want some WW2 American examples? Try Cherbourg, Aachen, reducing the Ruhr Pocket, Remagen, et cetera, and so on, and so forth, ad nauseum.

Urban combat is a meatgrinder. Period.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

There was no street fighting in Cherbourg and hardly a battle at all at Remagen except in the movie, just some shelling and bombing by the Luftwaffe.