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Post-GOP Convention, CAMEC (Computer Analysis Model of Electoral College)
9/11/04 | Josh in PA

Posted on 09/11/2004 4:13:30 AM PDT by Josh in PA

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To: TimPatriot

Do you think that baseball fans are representative of the general Massachusetts demographic?


21 posted on 09/11/2004 6:25:07 AM PDT by Charlotte Corday (I don't burn the flag because I can. I will burn the flag if I can't.)
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Bush wins MN? Are polls actually showing him ahead there? I have hopes he can be the first Republican to win it since 1972 but I am very skeptical. History is not on the GOP's side there.

I think if the election were held today though that we might lose NH but pick up WI, so GWB would take 284 votes. :) And that number should improve by 11/2.


22 posted on 09/11/2004 6:37:36 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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...and no one thought Coleman could beat Mondull...it's a sea change out there...


23 posted on 09/11/2004 6:45:30 AM PDT by Keith (JOHN KERRY...IN VIOLATION OF ARTICLE III SECTION 3 OF THE US CONSTITUTION)
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To: Charlotte Corday
Do you think that baseball fans are representative of the general Massachusetts demographic

I wouldn't say that I know the Fenway baseball fan demographic to be proportional subset of the greater likely Mass voter demographic, however, it is just one anecdotal piece of evidence of how unpopular and unliked John Kerry is, even in his home state. This particular game had plenty of Kerry minions attempting to pass out signs, and DNC attendees who managed to get tickets. Kerry has done nothing in 19 senate years, even the people of this state hardly knew him, especially when he has had the Boston Globe and local news to carry the water for him. But people are seeing him now, and I know several democrats who were high on him when he first became the dem front runner, who now have no respect for him and his utter inability to stand for anything other than his personal ambition to be president. Let's face it, Kerry is an unlikable and arrogant guy, even you dems out there have to admit that. Again, I doubt Kerry will lose in Massachusetts, though I'd love to see it, but he would be lucky to win by 7% even. No way it's 25% as this data indicates, that said, if what I say is true, this election could break big for the Republicans. I'm predicting 5 senate seats to be picked up.
24 posted on 09/11/2004 6:55:27 AM PDT by TimPatriot
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Actually, my numbers have it Kerry leading Mass by 21, not 25.

Gore carried Massachussetts by 27 points, and two July polls indicated Kerry led Mass by 26-29.

Several factors, as you have described, make the race tighter than it would otherwise be (6 points closer than what Gore had it, and 5-8 points closer than what the only polls have it)


There's not much else at this time to indicate it'll be any closer than 20, other than your own vibes and at this time I'm not putting human emotion into this :).



25 posted on 09/11/2004 7:15:34 AM PDT by Josh in PA
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If you want to be happy, choose to live in a +15 or greater Bush state.

If you're writing about South Carolina, AMEN!!

26 posted on 09/11/2004 7:22:05 AM PDT by upchuck (You do know that the Tasmanians, who never committed adultery, are now extinct, don't you?)
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It's interesting the Ohio Bush +8, and Florida Bush +7 and Missouri B+8 are "battle ground states" yet California is Kerry +6 and it is considered by the left to be firmly in his camp. I think that a poll like this must really scare the libs.

Remember after 2000 everyone on the left asking rhetorically "why should one state make a difference?" well the truth is one state does make a difference, no democrat can win without CA. If I were a lib I'd be very worried about a poll with this kind of info in it.


27 posted on 09/11/2004 7:30:17 AM PDT by everitt12
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California is a hard 6 though, where those other "battleground" states have softer support and easier to move in one direction or the other.

It's going to be tough for Bush to move much closer than 5-6 in California, even if he opens up bigger leads in other states.


Through my research, I've found that each state has a "pressure point" or "level of resistance" where movement past that certain point is very very limited. Similar to Technical Analysis in stock trading, each state has its own "resistance" and "support" levels for each candidate.

Once a candidate breaks through these barriers, it's landslide. Bush is at his resistance levels in every single state. If Bush has a stellar first debate, it could be breakthrough, and this race is Reagan-Mondale, Nixon-McGovern.



28 posted on 09/11/2004 7:36:27 AM PDT by Josh in PA
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The only safe states for Kerry right now are the ones where he leads by double digits. That would be Massachusetts, New York, Rhode Island, Vermont,and the District of Columbia.

It's time for Bush to go after states like Michigan, Maine and Washington.


29 posted on 09/11/2004 7:44:29 AM PDT by proudpapa (of three.)
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To: Josh in PA
other than your own vibes and at this time I'm not putting human emotion into this

LOL!! Fair enough, call me an optimist. ;)

Curious, what was the methodology used to gather the MA numbers?
30 posted on 09/11/2004 7:50:19 AM PDT by TimPatriot
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Please put me on your ping list===you have the best news I've heard all day!


31 posted on 09/11/2004 10:56:06 PM PDT by MHT
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To: Jet Jaguar; sc2_ct; POA2; Jemian


Missed these pings yesterday... Sorry guys


32 posted on 09/12/2004 4:54:15 AM PDT by Josh in PA
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To: Josh in PA

I agree it will be a hard state and Bush probably won't win, but I think (hope) that the Kerry guys will need to secure the left coast and hopefully have to reallocat money to CA, WA and OR. That means they'll have less for places like Florida and Ohio. Hopefully.


33 posted on 09/12/2004 9:48:45 AM PDT by everitt12
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