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RATHER FORGES AHEAD
New York Post ^ | 9/11/04 | DDEBORAH ORIN and VINCENT MORRIS

Posted on 09/11/2004 12:19:33 AM PDT by kattracks

September 11, 2004 -- CBS anchor Dan Rather hung tough last night and insisted there's no "definitive evidence" to refute the authenticity of documents about President Bush's National Guard service — but a growing number of document experts smell a hoax. "If any definitive evidence to the contrary of our story is found, we will report it. So far there is none," Rather insisted.

He produced a man named Marcel Matley as the document vetter.

But Matley is primarily a handwriting expert whose expertise in document evaluation has been challenged by the head of the American Board of Forensic Document Examiners.

Matley spoke only about a signature and initials purported to be those of the late Lt. Col. Jerry Killian — "they are his signatures" — though two of the four memos are unsigned.

Rather also acknowledged CBS has no originals, only photocopies.

Allan Haley — a typeface expert at Agfa Monotype — said anyone who claims to definitively authenticate a photocopy "is either guessing or is a fool."

In another challenge to CBS, Killian's boss, retired Maj. Gen. Bobby W. Hodges, told ABC News that he regards the documents as a computer "fraud," never saw them in the 1970s and didn't validate them for CBS.

A senior CBS official had claimed to the Washington Post that Hodges had validated the documents.

During his national news broadcast, Rather claimed "partisan political operatives" are challenging the memos but omitted the fact that Killian's widow and son dispute them.


(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; forgery; killian; rather
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To: kattracks
freep the advertisers ..... CBS hasn't any ethics any longer and hoping they will let go of the left agenda is not going to happen. they are to committed and want to be in charge. so freep the advertisers of rather and 60 min and post the freeps and responses..... go for the wallets...
21 posted on 09/11/2004 12:30:29 AM PDT by Gibtx
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To: kattracks

Imagine what it's going to be like to prove that anonymous e-mails from the turn of the century are fake 40 years from now.


22 posted on 09/11/2004 12:30:40 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: Howlin

I wear a cowboy hat and boots. Does that count?


23 posted on 09/11/2004 12:31:06 AM PDT by Texasforever (Kerry's new slogan "IT'S NOT THE STUPID CANDIDATE SO STOP SAYING THAT")
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To: kattracks

You know what the problem is? It's not that Dan Rather and CBS were the victims of a hoax - - it is that Dan Rather and CBS were the victims of a hoax that was not elaborate in the slightest.

This kind of hoax could have been perpetrated on Dan Rather and CBS by a kid in the school library. I say Dan Rather resigns in disgrace within two weeks. He will last be seen smiling broadly and giving a peace sign as he boards the helicopter that will take him away to retirement.

What a pathetic old fool.


24 posted on 09/11/2004 12:31:30 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: kattracks

1. sting operation -- (a complicated confidence game planned and executed with great care (especially an operation implemented by undercover agents to apprehend criminals))


25 posted on 09/11/2004 12:31:50 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Thank you Rush Limbaugh-godfather of the New Media.)
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To: Howlin

Just had a thought .. maybe some of our NY Freepers can freep CBS & Dan in their pajamas .. hehehe


26 posted on 09/11/2004 12:32:13 AM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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I often find the Post's 'cutsie' headlines trite, but this one is quite funny.


27 posted on 09/11/2004 12:32:23 AM PDT by blanknoone (Republicans need to acknowledge that campaign finance reform failed and start setting up 527s.)
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
You are just plain sinister big time political operative who just happens to do Bush's dirty work in his pajamas.

I've had worse things said about me right here on this site. Heck, somebody threatened to grab me by the nose today ......LOL.

28 posted on 09/11/2004 12:32:33 AM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: kattracks

This may be CBS's downfall.


29 posted on 09/11/2004 12:32:40 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: Texasforever

Well, thanks for THAT visual!


30 posted on 09/11/2004 12:33:16 AM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Texasforever

With spurs?


31 posted on 09/11/2004 12:33:37 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: Howlin

LOL! Was that jerk "smug" or what? Made you want to slap him up the side of the head with your slipper.

Seriously though, dismissing the thousands of people who are at home on their computers (I work from home and my work is soley computer based) as folks who sit around in their pajamas all day. What a jerk!


32 posted on 09/11/2004 12:33:46 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: kattracks
But Matley is primarily a handwriting expert whose expertise in document evaluation has been challenged by the head of the American Board of Forensic Document Examiners.

Matley comes up from Google as a "graphologist" and has authored books on how your handwriting shows your personallity.

A graphologist is to a handwriting expert as an astrologer is to an astronomer.

33 posted on 09/11/2004 12:33:59 AM PDT by Poincare
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To: Lancey Howard

Man I sure hope the kids drop me off at the dog track before I get as bad as this old fool.


34 posted on 09/11/2004 12:34:16 AM PDT by ninonitti
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To: MARTIAL MONK

LOL


35 posted on 09/11/2004 12:34:23 AM PDT by Rise of South Park Republicans (The Founding Fathers wanted disagreements as long as we all agree America kicks as* - Eric Cartman)
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To: Howlin

You wrote:

"And he accused me of doing it in my pajamas!"

[Sarcasm torpedo ARMED. FIRE!]
At _his_ age, Rather probably does it in his Depends.


36 posted on 09/11/2004 12:35:10 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: All

37 posted on 09/11/2004 12:35:15 AM PDT by Terp (Retired living in Philippines were the Mountains meet the Sea in the Land of Smiles)
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To: Jeff Chandler; Howlin
>>During his national news broadcast, Rather claimed "partisan political operatives" are challenging the memos <<

That would be you

;)

Partisan Political Operatives are what?, like the Vast Right-Wing Conspirators, on steroids.

This is just so lame. It worked in '92, it ain't gonna float this boat.

38 posted on 09/11/2004 12:35:52 AM PDT by My back yard (Post # 47 tags it)
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To: MARTIAL MONK
With spurs?

Only on formal occasions.

39 posted on 09/11/2004 12:36:38 AM PDT by Texasforever (Kerry's new slogan "IT'S NOT THE STUPID CANDIDATE SO STOP SAYING THAT")
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To: kattracks

40 posted on 09/11/2004 12:36:48 AM PDT by ambrose (Rather Lied -- and the Kerry Campaign Died)
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