Posted on 09/10/2004 10:26:10 PM PDT by airedale
What was the standard font in the Texas Air National Guard and the US military at the time the Rather notes?
Bureaucracies tend to standardize things like type fonts. They purchase exactly the same thing for each typewriter. They might buy several sized of fonts but it's pretty much going to be the same font. Occasionally someone in a PR or Flag Officers staff might buy a special type font, but that would be unusual.
What was the standard type font balls ordered by the Texas Air National Guard and provided to their units for the IBM Selectric. What was the standard type face ordered for the other electric typewriters at the time and for the period preceding the supposed typing date of these documents?
I seem to remember it was PICA or Elite. The Elite was the smaller of the two at 12 characters per inch and PICA was 10 to an inch. I seem to remember what we used was PICA. I don’t remember what font ball we used when we got our first IBM Selectrics, but the same for all of our machines and the Captain’s yeoman (the leading chief on my ship and in the various Naval Units) had a couple of extra fonts for very special use and they were kept locked up. He didn’t want to loose them. The type font specifications would be in one of the yeoman manuals of the time for the Navy. Probably Yeoman 3 and 2 and if not there in the Yeoman 1. I’d be surprised if it hadn’t been covered by the time you got to Chief. It was probably covered in A school. I’m sure the Texas Air National Guard had similar training manuals for the people filling the same job as a Naval Yeoman even if it was the US Air Force manuals.
Any Yeoman out there that were in the Navy or the equivalent in the Air Force that know the answer?
Times New PICA?
quasiinrem is a newbie, Since August 10, 2004.
We have to keep that in mind while discussing this.
If I remember rightly, typewriters with 12-point type mostly used Elite or Courier while those using 10-point used Pica.
It wouldnt be TANG standards, it would be USAF standards. The ANG is part of the USAF, their paperwork and pay comes from the USAF.
quasiinrem
Since Aug 10, 2004
Nice try Troll. Since Democrats are experts in document forgery why should anyone trust the illegible document you posted?
PresidentFelon
According to his widow, Killian didn't type.
Typed on an Apple I PC.
Too bad they weren't invented until 1976.
Liberal bias is one thing but down right lies from the media is unforgivable.
My memory says that the standard type face on the Selectric balls was Courier. I looked it up on the internet and found that it's the same type face as PICA per: http://www.nightshadebooks.com/discus/messages/378/2488.html?1088636533 in a note by Iron James May 26, 2004 6:56 a.m. These people are really into editing and publishing.
"Ellen, Courier has been the standard forever. Long before twenty years ago. It was standard well before I started writing. It's the same font as typewriter Pica, and serves all the functions of Pica. And to be honest, it's difficult to find guidelines that don't mention Courier 12. "
My bet is that the majority of the typewriters regardless of type at the time these letters were supposed to be written were done in Courier/PICA. I converted this to New Courier and it sure looked familiar. I’d use that type face and compare it to other authentic documents from the same period at the Texas Air National Guard.
Wow. It's clear that the IBM typewriter has the letters at different heights, and doesn't "kern" the "fo" in "fox", like the MS WORD does.
OK, then it probably means that her typewriter is PICA and if those documents are in other than PICA or Courier then they are probably forgeries. Take a look at the commas, quotation marks, apostrophes etc. In Courier they have a very different look from Times New Roman. They are more like straight lines running on an angle then the curved look of New Times Roman.
The services follow DOD document standards. Courier 10-pitch and standard pica were acceptable. Even the State Department *just* (01 February 2004) changed from Courier to Times New Roman.
Go ask a Guard guy when they finally started seeing computers arrive in their unit...it probably wasn't until 1995. Most active duty units had computer by 1989. If your unit wanted a CPU that was capable of doing classified work...it was $15k for the CPU, monitor and printer. Most units had to beg to get that kinda money.
The IBM Selectric Composer which did have those capability was for publishing use only it wasn't anything that would show up anywhere outside that specialized area. Not only would they be exceptionally costly to purchase but they'd have to have special maintenance contracts. I can't believe that the ordinary IBM repair tech ever saw one let alone was able to repair one of the IBM Selectric Composers.
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