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Questions mount on Guard memos' authenticity (Killian Signature Forgery?)
Washington Times ^ | 9/11/04 | Rowen Scarborough

Posted on 09/10/2004 9:41:43 PM PDT by kattracks

A handwriting expert says the two signatures on purported Texas National Guard memos aired by CBS News this week are not those of President Bush's squadron commander, as asserted by "60 Minutes."
    Until now, press scrutiny of the memos supposedly written by the late Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian focused on the finding that the documents were, in the opinion of experts, produced by computers not yet in use in the early 1970s.
    Eugene P. Hussey, a certified forensic document examiner in Washington state, said yesterday there is another flaw in the CBS memos. Mr. Hussey studied the known signatures of Col. Killian on Air Force documents, and two signatures on documents dated 1972 and 1973 that aired on "60 Minutes" Wednesday night.

"It is my limited opinion that Killian did not sign those documents," Mr. Hussey told The Washington Times. He said he uses the phrase "limited opinion" because he does not have the original documents. He, like other experts interviewed by the press, relied on copies of originals first obtained by CBS. The White House then distributed copies of the memos in what is said was the interest of full disclosure.

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The Times provided Mr. Hussey with copies of the CBS documents, which he dubbed Q-1-3, and records known to have been signed by Col. Killian, (K-1-3).
    "It is my opinion based on the examination of the Q-1 through Q-3 and K-1 through K-3, that Jerry B. Killian probably did not sign his name to Q-1 and his initial to Q-3," Mr. Hussey said in a signed letter to The Times. "As to the authenticity of the CBS documents, that is Q-1 through Q-3, [they] appear to be product of a computer, rather than a typewriter."


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; forgery; haox; killian; napalminthemorning; rathergate; rowenscarborough; tang
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To: kcvl

Doesn't it stink that we have to fight a second Civil War in order to win a World War for our survival?

So be it.

I'm not a real "gun guy", but nothing has given me a smile lately like the FR threads with Freepers exchanging their wish lists on hardware and ordinance after the AWB thang sunsets.

I'm confident about the forestalling of any post November 2 "Civil War" waged by DU poofters.

Let's beat down the Islamist murderers threatening 5000 years of human civilization. You and I will both be resting with God before that happens. But, it'll happen. Because, we're Americans dammit.


121 posted on 09/11/2004 12:32:13 AM PDT by Barlowmaker
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Entrecorp, a firm advising companies on government relations and capital acquisitions.


122 posted on 09/11/2004 12:32:19 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Barlowmaker
Ben Barnes: AirFleet Capital: The aviation financing division of EntreCorp, Inc. Aircraft for sale, leases/loans, 100% financing, low payments, flexible terms to meet your requirements, worldwide, new or used aircraft.

Mr. Barnes was a top Democratic fund-raiser. He attended one of President Bill Clinton's controversial White House 'coffees.' But mostly, he courted Democratic senators in Washington as he built his lobbying business, Entrecorp.

He dates his national debut to a decade ago, when he attended the annual Nantucket, Mass., fund-raiser of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, where he met Mr. Kerry. Now, Mr. Barnes, like Mr. Kerry, has a house on Nantucket, and is a host during the annual event. He also holds frequent fund-raisers at his home in Austin. Among his closest associates is Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota.

123 posted on 09/11/2004 12:40:55 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

He's Kerry's next door neighbor!


124 posted on 09/11/2004 12:45:04 AM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Barlowmaker

Yes!

And a top fundraiser for Kerry.


125 posted on 09/11/2004 12:48:17 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Let's enjoy the Kerry 120 foot bungee cord off a 100 foot bridge.


126 posted on 09/11/2004 12:54:59 AM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: radicalamericannationalist

A beauty of this is that, even if no action is forthcoming, just seriously talking about it is major!


127 posted on 09/11/2004 1:59:19 AM PDT by Diddley (Hey Kerry: The swiftees are comin' for ya')
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To: MamaLucci

Didn't CBS threaten to depose the President? Sounds like desperation time.


128 posted on 09/11/2004 2:06:44 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Jewels1091

How much did TerAYsa pay to make it happen?


129 posted on 09/11/2004 2:08:52 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Jewels1091

And if the money trail leads back to MamaT., presumably the Killian family and GW could sue the knickers off her and Botoxboy.


130 posted on 09/11/2004 2:09:52 AM PDT by hershey
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To: kattracks

bump


131 posted on 09/11/2004 2:43:12 AM PDT by larryjohnson
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To: kattracks

btt


132 posted on 09/11/2004 4:27:06 AM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: woofie

you need to get accurate. the dems and the old media have confused enough people on this law as it is.


133 posted on 09/11/2004 5:13:30 AM PDT by the crow (I'm from the government. I'm here to help.)
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To: kattracks
Don't miss this article which debunks the myth that a typewriter could have typed the memos. And here is another typewriter link, and there are a bunch more here.

Hey - look at me - a victim of the New Orleans public school system and able to out fact check CBS. heh. BTW you can add me to the list that has blocked the enire network on all TV in my house. I'm also happily emailing & talking about this at parties & stuff with less current event oriented friends. Most people get pretty steamed when they hear CBS is making stuff up to smear the president. What is surprising is they are pretty much predisposed to believe Dan Rather would make stuff up. They'll bring up the old Dateline NBC faked crash, or Jayson Blair or some other example. Easy sell.

134 posted on 09/11/2004 5:40:06 AM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: the crow
I dont' know if this has already been pointed out, but since the forged documents were obviously made with a current day personal computer and word processeor program, they could easily scan an image of his signature and insert it into the "document", so the signature on any of the forged docs may absolutely be "real". Don't let that red herring fool any of you. IMHO, The picture of the document that I have seen appears to have been copied over and over or blurred with an image processing program to hide the perfection of the characters and any faint borders or shading differences, such as may occur between the signature image and the rest of the text.
135 posted on 09/11/2004 5:48:06 AM PDT by TimPatriot
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To: MJY1288
unless of course Madeline Albright was correct when she wondered out loud if President Bush would drag Osama bin Laden out of the White House basement 3 weeks before election day :-)

The worst secretary of state this country has ever had. President Bush could produce OBL at any time, whether it was one or two years ago, six months ago or election eve. There still would be at lease a 20 percent approval spike regardless of when they nail him. The American people aren't as stupid as Albright thinks we are - the timing will mean nothing. We just want him dead or alive.

136 posted on 09/11/2004 5:51:45 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: kattracks

Thanks to Phil Dragoo for providing the link below.

Go to this link and sit back and watch how the forgery was created by the lunatic lefty who forged this document:

http://img41.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img41&image=60minbusted.swf


137 posted on 09/11/2004 6:14:27 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Kerry = The Wrong Candidate in the Wrong Country at the Wrong Time (post 9/11)!)
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To: TheLion
What did the OETR stand for on the CYA memo?


I can't remember what the acronym stands for but it isn't related to what the purpose of the memo was... I saw someone on tv last night and he mentioned the OETR and program it stood for and said it wasn't what the memo was about... He was in the guard and had to go look it up himself...
138 posted on 09/11/2004 7:05:11 AM PDT by deport (In politics, as in fishing, you don't have to be a genius. You just have to be smarter than the fish)
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To: sinkspur
I suspect the FBI will be interested in somebody at CBS.

They should be, but your statement implies that there is no political direction in their choice of investigation. I don't think they will touch this, as things currently stand.

139 posted on 09/11/2004 7:14:29 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: mlbford2
They will. however, manage to crawl under the couch and cower in fear if another terrorist attack occurs.

BTW at this moment that famous gay American governor Jim McGreevey is now addressing the families at Ground Zero...what chutzbah.

140 posted on 09/11/2004 7:31:26 AM PDT by foreshadowed at waco
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