Here's the video from an anti-Bush site. Feel free to crash it with traffic:
http://BushLies2.Us/video/wmv/bush_awol_cbs.wmv
"Handwriting Experts", are a joke, and for sale to the highest bidder. For every one that says the documents are real, you can hire forty to say they are not real.
Let's get an FBI hand writing expert to take a look. Blather says that particular TH ability was available in the 70's? Who made them, how many were in production, how many sold and to who. The military usually buys the same model from the same company. Was it a personal typewriter or did it belong to the Guard? Details are lacking here.
He seems to have left that, and alot of other information, out of his little speech. This story needs to be torn apart bit by bit.
Hugh Hewitt.Read the whole thing! Excerpt:
...You are tilting at windmills with the IBM Selectric Composer theory.
Go to Selectric Manual which is a user's manual showing some sample typed text using this typewriter.
The typed text in the "Killian memos" is kerned (check out letter combinations like "fo" and "fe"), but the Composer text is clearly not. Kerning is a computationally complex task beyond the capacity of any mechanical typewriter--even one as expensive and elaborate as the IBM Selectric Composer. Moreover, the proportional spacing in the sample text is rather crude (look at the typesetting of "11" for example) which is the best that a mechanical typewriter--even one as complex as the Composer--can do.
Consult someone who understands the typography behind modern word processing. The "Killian memos" are word processed documents.
Robert "Corky" Cartwright
Professor of Computer Science
Rice University
ACM Fellow
"SOME ANALYSTS OUTSIDE CBS SAY THEY BELIEVE THE TYPEFACE ON THESE MEMOS IS NEW TIMES ROMAN.... WHICH THEY CLAIM WAS NOT AVAILABLE IN THE 1970S. BUT THE OWNER OF THE COMPANY THAT DISTRIBUTES THIS TYPING STYLE.... SAYS IT HAS BEEN AVAILABE SINCE 1931.DOCUMENT AND HANDWRITING EXAMINER MARCEL MATLEY ANALYZED THE DOCUMENTS FOR CBS NEWS."
I just got on line and clearly haven't been able to read all the posts on this thread. However I would point out:
Times New Roman was not available since 1931. Prior to sometime in the early 1940's, it was a printing typeface in England. The New York Times had it "reworked" and the new typeface was named "Times New Roman". It was used solely in the printing business and was available for Linotype machines- Not typewriters.
As far as I know or can discover, it wasn't generally available for typewriters.
CBS's "expert" has repeatedly been de-bunked in the past, the last time involved Kurt Colbain's suicide.
The guy has a rather poor record when it comes to handwriting analysis, and further, he IS NOT a questioned document expert.
I apologize if this info has already been posted.
I saw the peice but can only now comment on it. What a complete dodge of the facts.
The only thing on that segment from the seventies was the "document examiner's" tie!
NOTICE How he leads the story by repeating all the charges against Bush?
Drudge headline now acknowledging that the proper type of expert was not used by CBS. Quote:
"CBS Used Handwriting Not Typewriter Analyst..."
Drudge's own words, not a headline quoted from an outside source. Links to the CBS transcript at this time.
Oh Danny Boy, the Feds the Feds are calling..........
42,000 views for this thread.
Colmes is trying to catch Gary Killian in a 'gotcha' and Killian isn't biting.
hehehe.
Colmes tried to get Killian to speculate whom he thought might be behind the forgeries.
Drudge now also headlining a link to a previously written Wolf Blitzer slam of Rather. The fact that this and the NBC piece are topping the "headlines" suggests to me that the MSM intends to hold onto this issue, most likely bring in reliable forensic document evaluators, in the hopes of hitting CBS hard. Looks like the good ol' network-to-network competition trumps their need for solidarity against Bush.
Goes to show: you can unite all the outlets of the MSM in co-ordinated attacks against the Pres... but when it becomes an issue of money and competition they'll eat each other alive. Ya gotta love it. :P
Don't miss this one. ;-)
I don't understand why the RNC has not demanded that military intelligence investigate whether alleged military documents have or have not been forged: certainly a violation of military regualtions and/or federal law.
Anton
I'm going nuts. With Hannity's memo, the content was irrelivent, but the leak must be examined. This time it dosen't matter if the memo is even real, but what it suggests is fact and Bush must pay. It boggles the mind, it does.
So there are no originals available...the signatures may indeed be real...but cut and pasted. I bet they ran these through some older thermal fax machines, which tend to run the letters.
Dear Dan,
Since you're known to use "down home" phrasiology, here is something for you, "kick off your boots and hang up your hat".
Dan, it's over.
Sincerely,
A. Concerned Citizen