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CBS Ignored Info That Docs Were Likely Inauthentic!!
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Posted on 09/10/2004 2:23:42 PM PDT by chunkycheese

Gary Killian, son of the "author" of the CBS memos, just stated on air that when he tried to bring to CBS's attention the likelihood that the memos supposedly written by his father were dubious, they ignored his input, as well as his suggestion that they talk with some of Bush's co-pilots who would've vouched for Bush's performance as an Air Guardsman!


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: danblather; danrather; killian; lamestreammedia; memogate; morelamestreammedia; napalminthemorning; rathergate; rathernot; selectricgate
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To: EllaMinnow
Basically, I am left with the impression that he doesn't care if they are fakes, and that the only questions that should be answered are the questions raised about "Lieutenant Bush" disobeying direct orders.

Thanks. That's about what I expected.

All the dems I've seen today (though they don't look as happy as they did early yesterday), have said it doesn't matter if the docs are fake---What's important, they've been saying, is the charges in them. That's what Wolfson just said again on Blitzer's show.

It is absolute insanity.

81 posted on 09/10/2004 2:50:55 PM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: finnman69

"This is crazy. This Mary Mapes seems to have a history of nefarious reporting and activity:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=cbs+producer+mary+mapes&btnG=Search "


Wow...Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A must read!!!!


82 posted on 09/10/2004 2:51:02 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: YaYa123
It is Friday, Ivan is about to hit Florida, I think Rather, CBS, the DNC and the Kerry campaign figure they'll get away with this. All they wanted to do was change some undecided votes, and give their base a thrill by putting Bush in the hot seat again, over his National Guard service.

Substitute "turn off" for "change" and you've got it. The aim of the Leftist Media and the DemonRATs over the last 30+ years has been to take the "middle" out of politics so that their fraud will carry the day.

83 posted on 09/10/2004 2:52:01 PM PDT by steveegg (C-BS, w/Dan Blather - the official network and anchor of the Clintonistas and Ketchup/Breck)
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To: YaYa123
I think its too late to for CBS just tough it out. ABC, CNN, MSNBC and other have all carried it...and with this new info, it's just going to get hotter.

We shall see.

84 posted on 09/10/2004 2:52:23 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: cyncooper

I also heard Charlie Rangel on Crossfire, saying that President Bush skipped his physical to avoid a drug urine test.

According to my veteran husband, there were no urine drug tests used in the military in the 1970s.


85 posted on 09/10/2004 2:52:46 PM PDT by EllaMinnow (John Kerry won't be happy until he's made us all as miserable as he is.)
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To: Howlin

I have to leave in a little while (working a Bush-Cheney table at a function), but hope I can entrust some information to you in case it is needed later?

It looks like this proves the Selectric Composer can't get any larger than 12 pt and CAN'T do kerning... a few sentences later it states that kerning became available in WordPerfect in 1988.

Hope it helps :-)

"History of Word Processing"

"...A model of the Selectric Composer was soon fitted to read tapes created and corrected on the MT/ST. The machine calculated interword spaces, and it was thus necessary to type only once to achieve a justified output.Hyphenation during playback, though operator-assisted,was implemented for the first time. While the MagneticTape Selectric Composer was still very expensive for an office, and was limited to a maximum type size of 12 points, its input could be prepared by a secretary without the special training of a typesetter. It marked an important first step in the marriage of word processing and typeset-ting.’From early in the computer age, typesetters developed the hardware needed to use computer files as input.However, this was limited to letters, numbers, and punctu-ation; formatting, control of type face or size, and use of special characters were only possible if complex codeswere added to the computer files. The results could not bepreviewed on the computer, nor could the transferred files,once processed on the target hardware, be returned for further editing on the computer. The output devices were far too expensive for office or small business use.’ Production of typeset output on the microcomputer itself required an affordable output device with good resolution, speed, and print quality, the ability to handle avariety of type sizes and special characters, and the processing power to calculate microspacing needed to justify lines. The latter is the simplest: the program uses a table containing the widths of each character, calculates the total length of the letters in a line by adding the width of each, subtracting this from the desired line length(measure), and dividing the remainder by the number of interword spaces. The result is then sent to the printer as fractional spacing instructions. In addition, good typeset-ting requires kerning: removing space between selected pairs of letters to achieve a satisfying visual effect. Thisadded to the previous requirement the need to look up pairs of characters in a table and send fractional spacing adjustments to the printer between letters. Proportional spacing was partially implemented onCP/M machines, and fully adapted on both MS-DOS andMacintosh machines in the mid-1980s. Kerning was implemented with WordPerfect 5.0, in 1988. The output device of choice proved to be the laser printer. Daisy-wheel printers could handle proportional spacing, but not varying type sizes...."

http://users.ipfw.edu/jehle/deisenbe/compartics/History_of_Word_Processing.pdf


86 posted on 09/10/2004 2:52:54 PM PDT by Tamzee (Dan Rather... All the News that's Fit to Forge)
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To: EllaMinnow
It never occurs to him that questions raised by bogus documents are bogus questions.

It occurs, but the plan is full steam ahead. I've seen several dems do it today and the fact that Rather is doing it, too, serves as evidence that he's in collusion with them to push this attack on the President full bore.

87 posted on 09/10/2004 2:53:15 PM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: cyncooper
All the dems I've seen today (though they don't look as happy as they did early yesterday), have said it doesn't matter if the docs are fake---What's important, they've been saying, is the charges in them.

Where have I seen that playbook before? Oh yeah; the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings. The DumboRATs never learn, do they?

89 posted on 09/10/2004 2:54:00 PM PDT by steveegg (C-BS, w/Dan Blather - the official network and anchor of the Clintonistas and Ketchup/Breck)
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To: chunkycheese

Where did Mary Mapes get these forged documents or did she write them?


90 posted on 09/10/2004 2:56:05 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Thrusher

There's blood in the MSM waters and the other newsies are circling - they would love to laugh over the demise of CBS and to PROVE (yeah right) that they provide the real news.

Kerry takes a back seat to a possible News Organization kill like this. I can hear the CNN hyenas laughing right now and the hair is standing up on my neck!


91 posted on 09/10/2004 2:56:21 PM PDT by UseYourHead (This November, remember who the terrorists are voting for.)
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To: Howlin

So do I when my pup is in my lap. I had 4 semesters of typing class. Never got fast 45 per min, but I passed.


92 posted on 09/10/2004 2:57:05 PM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: UseYourHead

But will Ivan wash all of this away?


93 posted on 09/10/2004 2:57:21 PM PDT by Thrusher (The timing of this post is suspicious.)
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To: Dog

Nah, CBS has big shoulders and if they didn't think Rather could handle this they wouldn't send him out again. They're digging in their heels. Was it not Lenin who said something like if you keep saying a lie loud enough and long enough people will believe it? Well, case in point.......


94 posted on 09/10/2004 2:57:55 PM PDT by Max7 (.)
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To: YaYa123

I just posted the same idea....the dem plan is full steam ahead.

I've see severeal dems do this today. Earlier Steve McMahon said that questioning the authenticity of the documents only serves to distract from the questions in them that Bush needs to answer.

It is crazy and this proves Rather was in on the scam (which I figured once I got on board the fraud train...one of the last to hop aboard).


95 posted on 09/10/2004 2:59:08 PM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: Thrusher

The Sunday Talking Heads are salivating and no storm will deny them this one. I think the storm may help slow this down but there's no stopping it if the docs are fake - and it sure does look like they are.


96 posted on 09/10/2004 3:00:57 PM PDT by UseYourHead (This November, remember who the terrorists are voting for.)
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To: All

If this has been posted forgive me. I have been reading so many threads the past few days my head is spinning.

When Sean was speaking with Killian's son he said something very interesting.

One story is that the DNC came into possession of these docs about 6 weeks ago and turned them over to CBS.

Today, Killians's son said Mary Mapes came to him 2 weeks ago and was looking for these documents.

Has CBS gone on record as to how long they have had the documents?


97 posted on 09/10/2004 3:03:35 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (What part of SHALL PASS NO LAW do they not understand?)
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To: UseYourHead

I just heard a top of the hour newsbreak blurb on the "questions raised about the authenticity" of the documents: a sound-byte from Dan Rather insisting they are authentic.


98 posted on 09/10/2004 3:04:00 PM PDT by Thrusher (The timing of this post is suspicious.)
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To: N. Theknow

Awesome. Freepers should all wear paper-clips on their shirts to remind voters of the slimey tatics the Democrats will stoop to in order to elect a candidate!


99 posted on 09/10/2004 3:04:26 PM PDT by BombHollywood
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To: Thrusher
I can see it being just swept under the rug with everything else.

I'm afraid this could be true. The only pry-bar big enough to pull the truth out and amplify it to America at large is the MSM -- and it doesn't look like they are ready to eat their own yet.

After all, what's in it for ABC/NBC/CNN/etc to sink CBS? Ratings? Competition? Not if they fear that by weakening the MSM stronghold, they (ABC/NBC...) could be brought down next on come similar issue. (i.e. They're all guilty as sin of this type of fabrication in general, and they all have tons of "dirt" on each other -- so they figure they'd better cover for CBS for now. (Didn't you see Ted Koppel last night start out by referring to "my good friend, Dan Rather")?

Right now they want to avoid mutual destruction... too bad really.

100 posted on 09/10/2004 3:06:29 PM PDT by Murph
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