Robin Rather
Ben Barnes
Was Robin Rather and/or Ben Barnes the source of the forged documents?
Posted on 09/10/2004 9:02:53 AM PDT by johnny dollar
Pat Caddell on Fox News Live this morning excoriated the Kerry campaign, and suggested they are behind the faked memos. I have posted an instant transcript at:
http://homepage.mac.com/mkoldys/iblog/index.html
The problem the Democrat party has is that so much of its base is so unhinged that almost no one with any scruples wants any part of it.
And those with some semblence of ethics have their thinking skewed by a worldview with almost no connection to reality. Jimmy Carter is a perfect example of that.
Clinton simply happened to be president at a time when even a total screwup had nothing to screw up. The economy was ticking along fine, we weren't at war, and the Republican congress kept him from screwing any of that up.
In more normal times, Clinton would have been just another Jimmy Carter.
The point of all this is that Democrat politicians just aren't to be taken seriously anymore. All politicians tend to be hucksters, liars, or anti-functional idealists, but the democrats take that to a whole new level, to a point where they actually do more harm to themselves than their intended marks. They just can't be taken seriously any more.
It's much too late. If he said that, conservative voters would look at his personal history and his voting record and say, "No way, Jose." He could never be trusted to do those things. But he would alienate a ton of his liberal supporters. They wouldn't really believe him either, but it would be too much for them to take. They'd vote for Nader, as a write-in candidate if necessary.
When the plane was in demand overseas, Bush was not yet qualified to fly it. By the time he passed his final combat flight test in June 1970, the Air Force was pulling the jets out of Southeast Asia.
Bush, the Texas governor and presumptive Republican presidential nominee, said in his autobiography that he and a friend, Fred Bailey, tried to join the Palace Alert program that rotated National Guard pilots into Vietnam. A colonel told them only a few more pilots would go and "Fred and I had not logged enough hours to participate," Bush wrote.
Retired Col. Maury Udell, who trained Bush to fly the F-102, has no doubt his pupil was willing to go to Vietnam. Udell agreed that Bush was too inexperienced for Palace Alert, but he said the young man did become a good fighter pilot. "George got really good in air-to-air combat," he said.
Udell, now a 270-pound judo expert who describes himself as a "war-type guy," said Bush had an extraordinary memory and ability to process information. From Udell's perspective, Bush's ability to overcome his aristocratic schooling at Phillips Academy in Andover, Mass., and Yale University and mix with the other guardsmen was more impressive. "It is OK to get a good education, but some of those people are a little off the wall," he said. "I just wanted to make sure that he was in it for real."
Udell said he spent six hours a day for six months training Bush. And that's not all. "We would go to the bar and play dead bug just like everybody else," he said. When someone yelled "dead bug" the pilots would hit the floor and stick their hands and feet up in the air. "The last guy to do that has to buy the next round," Udell said, laughing. "He was really good with folks," he said. But the young pilot did not take insults well: "You can't put him down too easily. He's really tough. He'll fight you."
Agree. Lack of competition makes the winner lazy.
If you don't believe me, look at Ohio, RINO Headquarters.
Your have real talent.
I was thinking the same thing. I would not elminate it as a possibility just yet, but it will probably take 1-2 more outrages like Times-New-Rather to make it a viable possibility.
"Just heard McAwful on the noon ABC radio news blaming the fake dox on a Republican setup. "
The man is clearly delusional. And sooooo out of a job in a few weeks, I might add.""
I looked at this problem long and hard and here is my take:
sKerry knows that someone-Swifties- someone is going after his trip to Paris, Trip to Kansas to discuss killing USA Senators, etc. sKerry knows there is serious talk revolving around his own military record and the 3 different certificates with different wording on them for one medal. sKerry knows there is going to be a serious attack on his 20 year non-voting record. There are many targets where sKerry is concerned.
I started to think- what is this is the first part of a multipart setup to try and have the Dims say that "if documents concerning Bush's TANG record are fakes, then all the documents showing sKerry in a bad light are also FAKE? Just a thought.
Agree. However, the democratic party is now beyond repair. Competition for the republicans will have to come from some other source.
Suppose the democratic party disappears, and the republican party splits, fiscal conservatives and libertarians on one side and cultural warriors on the other.
Shaping up to be another rough month for Kerry. Maybe he'll turn it around in October.
I agree. He has flipped and flopped so many times I don't even know if he himself knows what he believes.
Too little, too late. The Dem'Rats are really shooting themselves in the foot this year. Stunts like Kerry refusing a press conference for five weeks (and counting), the forged documents, etc., will hopefully turn off the Pat Caddells of the party, and if they don't go to the GOP, at least they'll drift away from the Socialist Democrats.
Likewise, as the Dems' policies get more and more extreme-left, they should (hopefully) lose some of their more centrist members.
I'm not saying the party will implode and cease to be, but gradually we should see a shift towards a long-term GOP domination of the House and Senate, much like the Dems did from the 1930s until the revolutions of 1980 and 1994.
Carville is vile, but he's not stupid. He's too slick to be involved in this amateur-hour hoax.""
Carville is vile. We all know that. I wouldn't put it past him to have passed these documents to a number of people, thru a number of cutouts, flooding the arena of "news" with this crap. This has the stamp of Clinton, Carville, and Lanny Davis all over it.
If it turns out that Carville had even the least hand in this, I hope Mary M divorces him and takes him to the cleaners. The woman is more than just a Republican and a Bush supporter. There comes a time when she has to recognise that her child and herself are not safe in this man's presence.
Mary- we love you and believe in you. We won't be able to trust you much longer if you keep staying with such a vile person.
Terry McAuliffe, cleanup on aisle five. Bring a mop.""
Correction; "Cleanup on aisle 5. Bring a body bag."
I remember Pat Cadell Election Night, too. I was impressed by his intellectual honesty. I could see that Chrissy M didn't want him to talk, either, once he saw where he was going.
LOLOL!
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