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More Problems Surface With '60 Minutes' Documents
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 9/10/04 | Robert B. Bluey

Posted on 09/10/2004 6:51:55 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: Arrowhead1952

"And on this thread, see reply #47 by Howlin

Documents Suggest Special Treatment for Bush in Guard"


Actually, the famous post 47 was made by Buckhead (to Howlin). But Howlin followed up, along with many alert FReepers!


81 posted on 09/10/2004 7:52:01 AM PDT by fetts
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To: kattracks

Question:

Is DAN RATHER the "BAGHDAD BOB" of CBS?


82 posted on 09/10/2004 7:52:27 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Gator113

I did a google search on PO BOX 34567 and went into newsgroups. I came up with the this post:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=p.o.+box+34567&start=10&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=Y39Sb.5962239%24be.974637%40news.easynews.com&rnum=17

that references the same address with respect to a document that questions Bush's guard service. I couldn't find the document the poster is referring, but apparently it originated with www.buzzflash.com and the poster questions the authenticity of the document based on the address way back in January. If the address is indeed fraudulent could the documents have been an Internet hoax that nine months later ended up at CBS? Maybe the address isn't fraudulent and buzzflash is referring to a different document by Killian? I need to find the document the poster is referring to. Should I make a separate topic for this?


83 posted on 09/10/2004 7:52:53 AM PDT by Catphish
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To: TonyRo76
“What's the typeface, Kenneth?”

How about

"What is the typeface, Kenneth?"

84 posted on 09/10/2004 7:53:27 AM PDT by leftcoaster
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To: Catphish
I'd say yes, start a new thread and let the full freeper force assist you in uncovering the source of these fraudulent docs. Great work, cool screenname.
85 posted on 09/10/2004 7:55:41 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: fetts
Actually, the famous post 47 was made by Buckhead (to Howlin). But Howlin followed up, along with many alert FReepers!

Trying to FReep this AM along with all the "work" here today is hectic. I stand corrected.

P.S. can't type well today either.

86 posted on 09/10/2004 7:57:11 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Charter member of the VRWC - and proud of it.)
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To: conservative in nyc

Ok, I didn't see your response before my post. Maybe buzzflash is referring to some other documents - still I wish I could find the ones the usenet member was citing - it would very interesting, to say the least, if they were the same documents.


89 posted on 09/10/2004 7:59:02 AM PDT by Catphish
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To: Quilla

I want to know who put a dead mans signiture on a fake doc!!
I know that has to be illegal.


90 posted on 09/10/2004 7:59:14 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Hootch

Laura Ingraham is reporting that CBS claims they spent 6 weeks verifying the authenticity of these documents. Yeah right! What he really means is that they spent six week creating these documents.


91 posted on 09/10/2004 7:59:59 AM PDT by mass55th (It's the superscript, stupid!!!!)
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To: Catphish
PO Box 34567 was correct. Check out page 10 of these official docs released by Bush:http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/9-Miscellaneous.pdf
92 posted on 09/10/2004 8:02:24 AM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: Catphish
PO Box 34567 was correct. Check out page 10 of these official docs released by Bush:http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/9-Miscellaneous.pdf
93 posted on 09/10/2004 8:02:44 AM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: MamaLucci
Hah! Thank you! I thought my memory might have been wrong. I do note, however, that she didn't say "October," the writer(s) of the article did. For everyone here, here is what she said:

"It will be very close," the former first lady tells the New York Post's Cindy Adams.

On how the contest will ultimately be decided, Clinton said, "It will be outside forces - something unforeseen that suddenly happens - that tilts the election one way or the other."

So for all we know, it was supposed to be a September surprise.

I also have this theory that this document dump was supposed to be the first of many. It occurs to me that after this one was proven to be forged, nothing they come up with will be trusted at this point.

(All together now: "Awwwwwwwwwwwwww")

94 posted on 09/10/2004 8:13:08 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: kattracks
Strange military lingo

Former military officers and others with knowledge of military correspondence contacted CNSNews.com Thursday to present their own critique. Among the problems they cited:

* The documents are not on a standard letterhead. Instead, they feature a typewritten and centered address with a post office box rather than an actual street address of the squadron. The address is P.O. Box 34567, which coincidentally includes five consecutive numbers.

There is something more wrong with these memos according to my sister who was a secretary for one of the top guys at Fort Hood in the mid 1970's. She said that everything they typed was required to have the initials of the typist on the document. She was sure the national guard in Texas would do this the same way.

I noticed that Killian's wife was quoted as saying he did not type. Are there any typist initials on the memos? I didn't see any. The typist could be tracked down using the initials, if he or she exists! She also confirmed that all they had in the way of typewriters back then was the old IBM selectric that did not have proportional font. She doubted that the national guard would have better equipment.

95 posted on 09/10/2004 8:15:39 AM PDT by politeia
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To: kattracks

Moveon.org's Texans for Truth denying any involvement.

We'll see, punks.


96 posted on 09/10/2004 8:17:52 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Zealous Troll Hunter - and you know who you are - you've been warned.)
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To: kattracks

Dan Rather should resign or be fired !!

CBS news should fire Dan Rather for not being absolutely positively certain of the authenticity of these forged documents. We are in the absolute final leg of a Presidential election and Dan Rather rushed to press to get these dociuments on the air because he thought it would potentially help Kerry and hurt Bush. He is blinded by his partisanship and is not fit to be a journalist.

Dan Rather never even looked into where these papers came from. It was his job to be CERTAIN of their authenticity. It's fitting that Rather's career comes to an end under this cloud of his extremist partisanship. He will always be remembered for this. His legacy will be fitting....a reporter who would lie to America if it supported his Left Wing Ideology.

97 posted on 09/10/2004 8:18:34 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: kattracks

Can Bush sue CBS for Slander and Personal Damages?
Say a couple of $Billion?

And name as co-defendants, Rather, et.al?
Attach NBC and ABC and others as willful perpetrators?

Curious...


98 posted on 09/10/2004 8:23:31 AM PDT by Prost1 (Why isn't Berger in jail?)
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To: chris1; jmstein7

Chris, meet our tenacious jmstein7


99 posted on 09/10/2004 8:23:32 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Zealous Troll Hunter - and you know who you are - you've been warned.)
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To: mabelkitty

Who is that?


100 posted on 09/10/2004 8:35:25 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - Gen. George S. Patton)
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