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Here's what Jerry Lewis Gore had to say:

Gore: Bush faith akin to fundamentalist Islam worldnetdaily.com ^ | 9-8-04 Posted on 09/08/2004 4:03:00 PM PDT by treeclimber

Former Vice President Al Gore has compared President Bush's Christian faith with fundamentalist Islam, saying it emphasizes "vengeance" and "brimstone."

In an interview with the New Yorker, Gore, who says he's a Southern Baptist, expressed disdain for Bush's public declaration of his faith.

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"It's a particular kind of religiosity," he told the magazine. "It's the American version of the same fundamentalist impulse that we see in Saudi Arabia, in Kashmir, in religions around the world: Hindu, Jewish, Christian, Muslim. They all have certain features in common.

"In a world of disconcerting change, when large and complex forces threaten familiar and comfortable guideposts, the natural impulse is to grab hold of the tree trunk that seems to have the deepest roots and hold on for dear life and never question the possibility that it's not going to be the source of your salvation. And the deepest roots are in philosophical and religious traditions that go way back. You don't hear very much from them about the Sermon on the Mount, you don't hear very much about the teachings of Jesus on giving to the poor, or the beatitudes. It's the vengeance, the brimstone." Gore also slammed Bush's leadership in the White House, calling him a "weak man."

"I wasn't surprised by Bush's economic policies, but I was surprised by the foreign policy, and I think he was, too," Gore told the New Yorker. "The real distinction of this presidency is that, at its core, he is a very weak man. He projects himself as incredibly strong, but behind closed doors he is incapable of saying no to his biggest financial supporters and his coalition in the Oval Office. He's been shockingly malleable to Cheney and Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz and the whole New American Century bunch. He was rolled in the immediate aftermath of 9-11. He was too weak to resist it. …

"I think he is a bully, and, like all bullies, he's a coward when confronted with a force that he's fearful of. His reaction to the extravagant and unbelievably selfish wish list of the wealthy interest groups that put him in the White House is obsequious. The degree of obsequiousness that is involved in saying 'yes, yes, yes, yes, yes' to whatever these people want, no matter the damage and harm done to the nation as a whole—that can come only from genuine moral cowardice."

Last month, Gore's former boss, Bill Clinton, also took aim at Bush's faith. At an appearance at a Harlem church service, the ex-president said Bush was a "good Christian" but that it "doesn't mean that he doesn't see through a glass darkly."

Here it is: Kerry on Defense

I keep it handy, just to shove it in the face of anyone who says that Kerry only occasionally voted against a bill included some of the weapons systems.

These position papers prove that he campaigned on canceling them!

Ask her how she and her minister feel about homosexual marriages, homosexual bishops and priests in the Episcopal Church, and activist homosexual preachers in other so called mainline churches.

I'm looking for the website that has the video now to show her. =)

Thanks to all....this is perfect

Info on Kerry weapons voting

Info on Kerry's bible quotes

Thanks - bookmarked.

Might as well throw in the Bush family's 40+ year involvement with the United Negro College Fund...

This is good:

The REAL John Kerry NewsMax.com | 1-21-04 | Chuck Noe Posted on 01/21/2004 7:16:49 AM PST by Jotmo

Here are facts and quotations that reveal the character of the new Democrat leader:

Denouncing America with 'Hanoi' Jane: Although Wesley Clark and others have attacked former front-runner Howard Dean as a draft-dodging ski bum, Kerry is far more complex than the simple war hero he portrays himself as.

He became a celebrated organizer for one of America's most extreme appeasement groups, Vietnam Veterans Against the War. He consorted with the likes of "Hanoi" Jane Fonda and Ramsey Clark, Lyndon Johnson's radical former attorney general.

He attended a seminar bankrolled by Fonda in Detroit in February 1971. Watching 125 self-proclaimed Vietnam veterans testify at a Howard Johnson's about atrocities allegedly committed by U.S. forces, the man who would be president later said he found the accounts shocking and irrefutable.

Operation Dewey Canyon III began on April 18, 1971, when nearly 1,000 Vietnam veterans and people claiming to be veterans gathered on Washington's Mall for what they called "a limited incursion into the country of Congress." The group staged mock firefights on the steps of the Capitol and Supreme Court and defied U.S. Park Police after the Department of Justice issued an injunction barring it from camping on the Mall.

Those evil American soldiers: Testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on April 23, 1971, Kerry claimed that U.S. soldiers had "raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam."

'We are not the best': In his testimony, Kerry claimed there was no communist threat and said: "In 1970 at West Point Vice President Agnew said 'some glamorize the criminal misfits of society while our best men die in Asian rice paddies to preserve the freedom which most of those misfits abuse,' and this was used as a rallying point for our effort in Vietnam. But for us, as boys in Asia whom the country was supposed to support, his statement is a terrible distortion from which we can only draw a very deep sense of revulsion, and hence the anger of some of the men who are here in Washington today. It is a distortion because we in no way consider ourselves the best men of this country ...."

Throw as I say, not as I do: On that same day he led members of VVAW in a protest during which they threw their medals and ribbons over a fence in front of the U.S. Capitol.

Kerry later admitted the medals he threw were not his. To this day they hang on the wall of his office. The book he doesn't want you to see: When Kerry ran for election to the U.S. House of Representative in 1972, "he found it necessary to suppress reproduction of the cover picture appearing on his own book, The New Soldier. His political opponent pointed out that it depicted several unkempt youths crudely handling an American flag to mock the famous photo of the U.S. Marines at Iwo Jima," according to Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry.

"Suddenly, copies of the book became unavailable and even disappeared from libraries. But the Lowell (Mass.) Sun said of the type of person shown on its cover: 'These people spit on the flag, they burn the flag, they carry the flag upside down, [and] they all but wipe their noses with it in their efforts to show their contempt for everything it still stands for,'" the New American reported.

Even today it is hard to find this infamous photo and book.

Friendly with the enemy: Kerry's fondness for Vietnam's communist dictatorship, one of the most oppressive in the world, continues.

As chairman of the Select Senate Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, created in 1991 to investigate reports that U.S. prisoners of war and soldiers designated missing in action were still alive in Vietnam, Kerry badgered the panel into voting that no American servicemen remained in Vietnam. "[N]o one in the United States Senate pushed harder to bury the POW/MIA issue, the last obstacle preventing normalization of relations with Hanoi, than John Forbes Kerry," noted U.S. Veteran Dispatch.

More extreme than Hillary and Kucinich: Among the White House wannabes, long-shot Rep. Dennis Kucinich has the reputation of holding the most left-wing congressional voting record. In fact, this "honor" goes to Kerry. According to American Conservative Union, Kerry has a lifetime rating of 6 percent, compared to 13 for the demolished Rep. Dick Gephardt, 14 for Sen. John Edwards, 15 for Kucinich and 19 for Sen. Joe Lieberman.

Sens. Hillary Clinton and Tom Daschle score 13 percent. Only the likes of Sens. Teddy Kennedy and Barbara Boxer have more left-wing records than Kerry. In contrast, Sen. John Breaux, one of the upper chamber's few remaining moderate Democrats, has a 46.

Drive as I say, not as I do: Like Al Gore and other self-described environmentalists, Kerry has a radical agenda that would devastate the U.S. economy in favor of the likes of communist China, yet he enjoys the gas-guzzling modern conveniences that greens denounce.

However, although Kerry spouts the party line on anti-U.S. ecopolicy, he doesn't like to practice what he preaches. Kerry was humiliated in April 2002 when photographed attending a rally against energy independence and then heading back to his SUV, the symbol of all that is evil to greens.

Bone to pick: Bush-hating conspiracy theorists find it alarming that the president, like his father, was a member of the secretive Skull and Bones society at Yale University. Another alum of this club: John Kerry. Waffling on Iraq: Kerry has the tough job of wooing Howard Dean's anti-war Democrats despite his support of the war in Iraq. His favorite tactic, claiming the president outfoxed him, doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

On "Meet the Press" in late August, Tim Russert played a tape of Kerry addressing the Senate in October 2002 with a hard-line speech declaring Iraq "capable of quickly producing weaponizing" of biological weapons that could be delivered against "the United States itself."

Kerry insisted: "That is exactly the point I'm making. We were given this information by our intelligence community."

However, as columnist Robert Novak noted, "as a senator, Kerry had access to the National Intelligence Estimate that was skeptical of Iraqi capability. Being tricky may no longer be as effective politically as it once was."

No doubt Dean, Lieberman, Clark and other rivals will now use these and other details to do to Kerry what the Democrats did to Dean.

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http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1183874/posts

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/8/5/151248.shtml

http://www.washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20040803-115713-2261r

http://atheism.about.com/b/a/103219.htm

Here is a few links about the kerry campaigns choice of religious advisor, complete with links to michael neudow.

per Bush and God and the negative comments.

http://healthandenergy.com/bush_and_god.htm

http://www.politicalusa.com/columnists/goldman/goldman_001.htm

http://www.unknownnews.net/insanity2.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4269261/site/newsweek/

Just a cursory search. I suggest you go to google and search (Bush and God) to find what you are looking for.

Funny you should mention that because we discudded that too. Her minister said this was another critical issue weighing on their minds. The like our PRESIDENTS stance.

Is John Kerry a War Criminal and a Traitor?

Consider the following.

After the Tet Offensive of 1968, the Viet Cong were decimated, the North Vietnam Communists were beaten, but with the Socialist leaning press in America and the VVAW’s antiwar protests the North Vietnamese Communists decided to hold on. John Kerry did not join VVAW until after his return from Vietnam in early 1969, and until then VVAW didn’t have very many members (8,500) and were not very successful at getting heard. The FBI reports that VVAW was nearly inactive until the Moratoriums in the fall of 1969. See pg 90 So, the press and the antiwar movement in America prevented the North Vietnamese Communists from surrendering.

This meant that instead of a US victory in South Vietnam and freedom for the South Vietnamese we had about 10,000 more US deaths from the time John Kerry came on board with the VVAW until the end of the war. America’s POW's were being tortured while listening to tapes of John "Traitor" Kerry calling them baby killers. America’s brave soldiers were dieing in the jungles of Vietnam and John Kerry

The VVAW, an antiwar group, founded in the spring of 1967, which Kerry was one of the national leaders of, was receiving directions from the North Vietnamese Communist Government. VVAW in contact with in contact with NV Communist Government

The directions were on how the VVAW should protest the Vietnam War.

The interaction became so depraved, that the North Vietnamese Communist contacted the VVAW via a phone call and advised the VVAW that they were getting ready to start an attack on US troops and that the VVAW was to be prepared to increase the protests against the increase in bombing that the NV Communists were sure would happen. This put our men in further danger because of John Kerry and VVAW actions. VVAW gets directions from the North Vietnamese Communists

John Kerry had no concern for the lives of his fellow soldiers in Vietnam or the POW's, John Kerry only cared about himself and his ambition to become POTUS, whatever the cost.

How many deaths of United States servicemen does John Kerry have on his hands?

How many families has John Kerry's behavior as a VVAW leader and a traitor to his country caused untold pain and suffering to?

How many unnecessary tears have been cried because John Kerry betrayed our trust to help a Communist government?

Does John Kerry still have ties to Communists in America?

John Kerry was an officer in the US Navy during his protests of the Vietnam War, having not received his discharge until 1978.

Why didn't John Kerry speak out just one time against the war crimes of his "Comrades in Arms the North Vietnamese Communists"?

Steven J. Pitkin says about his Winter Soldier testimony. “John Kerry and other leaders of that event pressured me to testify about American war crimes, despite my repeated statements that I could not honestly do so. One event leader strongly implied that I would not be provided transportation back to my home in Baltimore, Maryland, if I failed to comply. Kerry and other leaders of the event instructed me to publicly state that I had witnessed incidents of rape, brutality, atrocities and racism, knowing that such statements would necessarily be untrue.”

I've also been wondering why Kerry never reported the atrocities he supposedly witnessed while in Vietnam. Maybe because Kerry may have never witnessed any atrocities while he was in Vietnam. The VVAW leaders were meeting with the North Vietnamese Communist Government, leaders of the Communist Party in Moscow, and possibly the KGB, leaders of the Communist Party International in Paris, leaders of the Communist Party USA, and last but not least the group of Communists in South Vietnam that backed the North Vietnamese Communists.

These Communist groups were directing the VVAW leaders as to what they wanted them to do, when they wanted them to do it, and that is what the VVAW did.

So in a nutshell, when the world communist leaders told Kerry and his VVAW group what to do, that is what they did, no questions asked.

discussed....sorry must be a BUSHism with him on my mind.

Many thanks to Crazy Aunt In The Attic too for turning me onto this site. Yes "M" elections years are crazy on here. =)

Link for major convention speeches

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,130680,00.html

FWIW, here's an experience I had in a similar situation. (The person was white, but more importantly a liberal Dem.)

I was overbearing in the person's perception, and "always right". I ended up alienating the person and making him/her even more resolute to drink the kool-aid.

I'd have done better if I'd just let it go at times. Just my experience, though.

I have a friend who is a rarity, a real conservative who is a black.

He has been using the gay side of Kerry/Edwards and their pro gay stands with his relatives, friends and church members. He sent out the Free Republic pictures of the John/Johns mauling each other with their pro gay record to his black email list. He said that had more impact than anything else he has tried with them for a decade.

I agree....kool aid can be a wicked thing....lol