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"Crude and amazingly foolish forgeries"
The Weekly Standard | 090904 | Stephen F. Hayes

Posted on 09/09/2004 4:42:30 PM PDT by dep

DOCUMENTS CITED Wednesday by 60 Minutes in a widely-publicized expose of George W. Bush's National Guard Service are very likely forgeries, according to several experts on document authenticity and typography. The documents--four memos from Killian to himself or his files written in 1972 and 1973--appear to indicate that Bush refused or ignored orders to have a physical exam required to continue flying. CBS News anchor Dan Rather reported the segment and sourced the documents this way: "60 Minutes has obtained a number of documents we are told were taken from Col. Killian's personal file," he said. The 60 Minutes story served as the basis for follow-up news reports for dozens of news organizations across the country. The memos were almost immediately questioned in the blog world, with blog Power Line leading the charge.

And according to several forensic document experts contacted by THE WEEKLY STANDARD say the Killian memos appear to be forgeries. Although it is nearly impossible to establish with certainty the authenticity of documents without a careful examination of the originals, several irregularities in the Killian memos suggest that CBS may have been the victim of a hoax.

"These sure look like forgeries," says William Flynn, a forensic document expert widely considered the nation's top analyst of computer-generated documents. Flynn looked at copies of the documents posted on the CBS News website (here, here, here, and here). Flynn says, "I would say it looks very likely that these documents could not

have existed" in the early 1970s, when they were allegedly written.

Several other experts agree. "They look mighty suspicious," says a veteran forensic document expert who asked not to be quoted by name. Richard Polt, a Xavier University philosophy professor who operates a website dedicated to typewriters, says that while he is not an expert on typesetting, the documents "look like typical word-processed documents."

There are several reasons these experts are skeptical of the authenticity of the Killian memos. First the typographic spacing is proportional, as is routine with professional typesetting and computer typography, not monospace, as was common in typewriters in the 1970s. (In proportional type, thin letters like "i" and "l" are spaced closer together than thick letters like "W" and "M". In monospace, all the letter widths are the same.)

Second, the font appears to be identical to the Times New Roman font that is the default typeface in Microsoft Word and other modern word processing programs. According to Flynn, the font is not listed in the Haas Atlas--the definitive encyclopedia of typewriter type fonts.



Third, the apostrophes are curlicues of the sort produced by word processors on personal computers, not the straight vertical hashmarks typical of typewriters. Finally, in some references to Bush's unit--the 111thFighter Interceptor Squadron--the "th" is a superscript in a smaller size than the other type. Again, this is typical (and often done automatically) in modern word processing programs. Although several experts allow that such a rendering might have been theoretically possible in the early 1970s, it would have been highly unlikely. Superscripts produced on typewriters--the numbers preceding footnotes in term papers, for example--were almost always in the same size as the regular type.



So can we say with absolute certainty that the documents were forged? Not yet. Xavier University's Polt, in an email, offers two possible scenarios. "Either these are later transcriptions of earlier documents (which may have been handwritten or typed on a typewriter), or they are crude and amazingly foolish forgeries. I'm a Kerry supporter myself, but I won't let that cloud my objective judgment: I'm 99% sure that these documents were not produced in the early 1970s."



Says Flynn: "This looks pretty much like a hoax at this point in time."



CBS, in a statement Thursday afternoon, said it stands by the story. The network claims that its own document expert concluded the memos were authentic. There are several things CBS could do to clear up any confusion:



(1) Provide the name of the expert who authenticated the documents for Sixty Minutes.



(2) Provide the original documents to outside experts--William Flynn, Gerald Reynolds, and Peter Tytell seem to be the consensus top three in the United States--for further analysis.



(3) Provide more information on the source of the documents.



(A spokeswoman for CBS, Kelly Edwards, said she was overwhelmed with phone calls and did not respond to specific requests for comment.)



Stephen F. Hayes is a staff writer at The Weekly Standard.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; cbs; ccrm; forgery; kerry; killian; stephenfhayes
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To: Ann Archy

Wouldn't it just be loverly if we can trace it back to Hippo!!


61 posted on 09/09/2004 5:03:00 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: dep
And just when Paul Begala and James Carville arrive on the sceen???
Hummmm ...very, very interesting!
62 posted on 09/09/2004 5:03:00 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: mlbford2
Carville is taking direction from Hitlery. In fact he is the one behind it so as to assure a W victory.

Perhaps. But Hitlery will have to face a very well-liked Guliani in 2008. He's already alert to what she carries as far as smear ammunition, but it won't stand a chance against his actions post 9/11.

63 posted on 09/09/2004 5:03:08 PM PDT by meyer
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To: falcon1966

If this is indeed a deliberate forgery with the intended victim being the President of the United States, would that not be an act of treason ??


64 posted on 09/09/2004 5:03:22 PM PDT by falcon1966
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To: falcon1966

No!


65 posted on 09/09/2004 5:04:22 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: the invisib1e hand

The MSM--slowly self destructing, glad to see it.


66 posted on 09/09/2004 5:04:43 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( President Reagan---all the rest.)
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To: berkeleybeej

Ha! Well, every time someone calls Rove an evil genius, I privately think, "Damn straight. Glad he's on our side."


67 posted on 09/09/2004 5:04:50 PM PDT by True_wesT
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To: Keith in Iowa
I'm very curious about who the actual person was that gave these documents to CBS. That's what I want to know. Anyone know?
68 posted on 09/09/2004 5:05:51 PM PDT by johnwayne (I)
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To: johnwayne
SeeBS with undoubtedly have to out the source if they want to have a snowball's chance in hell of ever having an ounce of credibility.
69 posted on 09/09/2004 5:07:12 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa ("Oxymoron" is an oxymoron. Oxys=Sharp, keen + Moros=foolish --> moron = oxymoron.)
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To: True_wesT

For once, I'm actually grateful to Bill Gates for something! God Bless Microsoft Word! :-D


70 posted on 09/09/2004 5:07:12 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (CBS Lied, Dan Rather Is Fried.)
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To: Howlin
Later, however, she sent an e-mail to WND, adding, "CBS verified the authenticity of the documents by talking to individuals who had seen the documents at the time they were written. These individuals were close associates of [Bush commander] Colonel Jerry Killian and confirm that the documents reflect his opinions at the time the documents were written.

Well, you'd better start producing said individual, because NOBODY in this country believes you right now. How does that feel?

71 posted on 09/09/2004 5:08:50 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl
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To: BossLady

ya know, at the time the US Govt was screwing up so bad with everything they were doing NOBODY wanted anything to do with this mess in Nam. Last week O'reilly was saying he debated quitting college and joining the service to go to Nam..>>BS...nobody wanted nothin to do with it and those who wanted to kill kill kill HAD A PROBLEM BEFORE they got over there.


72 posted on 09/09/2004 5:09:12 PM PDT by Searching4Justice
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To: Semper Paratus
Didn't a 'typewriter' do in Alger Hiss?

yup, though whittaker chambers, grace lumpkin, and my mom (who carried the papers from chambers to rep. richard m. nixon) helped.

73 posted on 09/09/2004 5:09:25 PM PDT by dep (Ense Petit Placidam Sub Libertate Qvietem)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

LOL


74 posted on 09/09/2004 5:09:28 PM PDT by johnwayne (I)
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To: Howlin

You do realize you and Virago started all this?


75 posted on 09/09/2004 5:12:26 PM PDT by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: rodguy911
The MSM--slowly self destructing, glad to see it.

i don't think that's fair. i think it is wrong of you to use the word "slowly."

76 posted on 09/09/2004 5:12:34 PM PDT by dep (Ense Petit Placidam Sub Libertate Qvietem)
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To: Howlin

Sounds to me that CBS is back tracking. They realize they are probably forgeries. They are blaming some else for their error.


77 posted on 09/09/2004 5:13:06 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: lavrenti

Lots of people were involved; Virago, Buckhead and all the others I can't even remember now!


78 posted on 09/09/2004 5:15:24 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Uncle Hal

Hey, at least CBS gave us that 49-42 poll.

Wonder who certified the results. Hopefully it wasn't their document expert.


79 posted on 09/09/2004 5:16:44 PM PDT by True_wesT
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To: NewMediaFan

developing...

CBS hinting that the documents in question came from Al Capones vault. tick tick tick...


80 posted on 09/09/2004 5:16:44 PM PDT by Smartaleck
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