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"Crude and amazingly foolish forgeries"
The Weekly Standard | 090904 | Stephen F. Hayes

Posted on 09/09/2004 4:42:30 PM PDT by dep

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To: mewzilla
"A spokeswoman for CBS, Kelly Edwards..." Are you sure that wasn't Kerry Edwards?
101 posted on 09/09/2004 6:15:18 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: dep
I don't think cbs perpetrated the hoax/lies (if they did, it would have been more damning to Bush). So, that leaves two possibilities (imho):
1. Republican set-up to embarrass cbs.
2. Someone like that texan's for truth loser (barnes?) just trying to mix things up a bit, but uh-oh, got caught - big time.

In any case, this should generate a couple weeks of fun, kinda like that whole nyt/jayson blair thing. Kerry's boat takes another torpedo.

102 posted on 09/09/2004 6:20:13 PM PDT by searchandrecovery (Socialist America - diseased and dysfunctional.)
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To: Malesherbes

LOL!! How true!


103 posted on 09/09/2004 6:21:42 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Petronski
Scrappleface is hilarious.

I worked at IBM Federal Systems Division in 1972. As a new employee, I started my training on the IBM Executive Proportional Typewriter.

However, state-of-the-art at the time was the IBM Selectric Magnetic Card Typewriter which recorded keystrokes on magnetic media roughly the size and shape of data processing cards. Once a document was proofed, those puppies would run off a final copy at 150 words at minute. It created quite a racket in a word processing center with 20 magnetic typewriters and tape machines. Cubicles lined with carpet did little to absorb the noise.

104 posted on 09/09/2004 6:32:03 PM PDT by LNewman
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To: All
It may have already been mentioned but for sure this is CBS's cherry bomb in the gas tank.
105 posted on 09/09/2004 6:46:54 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
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To: RogueIsland
The network claims that its own document expert concluded the memos were authentic.

So far I've seen four document experts willing to put their names to "Fake". The number standing by "authentic": less than one actually.

106 posted on 09/09/2004 6:48:36 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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To: Keith in Iowa

Thanks for the info on the Drudge site. As of this time the 60Minutes logo is still upside down, love it.


107 posted on 09/09/2004 6:52:12 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: johnwayne
I'm very curious about who the actual person was that gave these documents to CBS. That's what I want to know. Anyone know?

This guy


108 posted on 09/09/2004 6:52:40 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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To: Lil'freeper

LOL... you're everywhere... :-)


109 posted on 09/09/2004 6:53:50 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: Keith in Iowa
Killian memos suggest that CBS may have been the victim of a hoax.

Victim? Likely participant at worst, willingly fooled out of blind rage against Bush, at best.

110 posted on 09/09/2004 6:58:24 PM PDT by Swanks
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To: dep

I find it interesting that even the Weekly Standard describes this as, "It looks like CBS may have been the victim of a hoax"...

And not one person describes it as "It looks like George W. Bush may have been the victim of a hoax".

Qwinn


111 posted on 09/09/2004 6:59:07 PM PDT by Qwinn
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To: Texasforever
"...indentations from the striker keys?"

Especially the punctuation marks and most especially the period, which sometimes punches a hole right through the paper. I have a very old Underwood portable I sometimes use and from time to time I have to adjust it for this and other reasons.

Also, as the typewriter ribbon gets worn, the print tone lightens, especially for those passages typed when the ribbon is near the end.

There are lots of other peculiarities too. For instance, in an old typewriter like mine, the metal characters wear down with age and do so unevenly. This changes their appearance in ways not casually apparent but which become obvious under close inspection.

112 posted on 09/09/2004 7:11:39 PM PDT by Bonaparte (and guess who sighs his lullabies, to nights that never end...)
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To: dep

Spread the word!


113 posted on 09/09/2004 7:14:33 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: Qwinn
"It looks like CBS may have been the victim of a hoax"...

IMO, the Weekly knows very well that CBS is no victim here. I think they're suggesting by indirection a way out for CBS, namely, to admit they're fools rather than admit they're liars.

114 posted on 09/09/2004 7:15:19 PM PDT by Bonaparte (and guess who sighs his lullabies, to nights that never end...)
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To: Howlin; lavrenti; Buckhead
Lots of people were involved; Virago, Buckhead and all the others I can't even remember now!

IIRC, Buckhead's post was the first to suggest that the documents were forgeries, then Howlin posted a separate thread about the documents, which helped to get the ball rolling. And lots of freepers chimed in with good analyses. What I think is the coolest is how there's nothing that the document experts pointed out, that hadn't already been pointed out by at least one freeper!

115 posted on 09/09/2004 7:24:22 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1210516/posts?page=107#107

And you are right -- I've caught myself posting to people this very day "we did that last night".........LOL.

Frankly, I'm surprised it got this big this soon, aren't you?

Nightline is covering it.


116 posted on 09/09/2004 7:27:53 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Howlin
And you are right -- I've caught myself posting to people this very day "we did that last night".........LOL. Frankly, I'm surprised it got this big this soon, aren't you? Nightline is covering it.

I was going to write a note to Instapundit last night, and pointing him to the thread and commentary. Then my email crashed and I decided to just go to bed and write something up in the morning. When I got up, I looked at Drudge and was thrilled to see that this story had gotten traction, thanks to freepers' work (the Powerline blog started running with the story after being alerted to our comments.) Now Nightline's covering it? Very cool!

117 posted on 09/09/2004 7:31:47 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: dep

If the documents that CBS broadcast to the world are proven to be forged, John Kerry himself ought to call for the firing of Dan Rather.


118 posted on 09/09/2004 7:35:53 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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To: dep

Hitlery's operatives created the forgeries (or bought them) and got them to Dan Rathernot to skewer any chance of F'n winning this thing.


119 posted on 09/09/2004 7:39:54 PM PDT by Thom Pain (Quisling - from Vidkun Quisling (1887-1945), a synonym for "traitor")
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To: NYCVirago

Victory in this case justly has a thousand fathers. Tanker KC first pegged them as fakes by the overall look, and I later noted the font issue. Many other defects have been noted by others. I haven't gotten any work done, but it's been a ton of fun. The most amazing thing is how this thing has exploded across the internet.

Mwuhahahahaha!!!


120 posted on 09/09/2004 7:51:04 PM PDT by Buckhead
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