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1 posted on 09/09/2004 1:39:31 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: Steven W.

Even a blind man could see this is fake.


2 posted on 09/09/2004 1:40:19 PM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Steven W.

It's got legs, and moving up the food chain.


3 posted on 09/09/2004 1:40:35 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Steven W.

Libs now denying they'd voted for Clinton "I voted for Bob Dole because I thought he was the better man" HILARIOUS!


4 posted on 09/09/2004 1:40:44 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: Steven W.

It's not a scandal unless it's truely forged. If it's not and we hype attention on the memo and it's found to be real (which I honestly assume it is....at least from 1973), then we are doing more harm than good.


7 posted on 09/09/2004 1:43:34 PM PDT by OneTimeLurker
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To: Steven W.
I'll backdate, but won't rate.

See, that phrase proves it. Jesse Jackson wrote the memo.

8 posted on 09/09/2004 1:43:37 PM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Steven W.
I just viewed the "Memo" ordering W to take the flight physical.

I noticed the "DOTS" in the background noise (supposedly from copying over and over), have a definite pattern to them.

CONNECT THE DOTS!..........
9 posted on 09/09/2004 1:44:10 PM PDT by Red Badger (Kerry can't run on his record, so George Bush is going to.....)
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To: Steven W.
Could this be from the computer of Robinson at Boston Globe?
10 posted on 09/09/2004 1:44:27 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Cuius rei demonstrationem mirabilem sane detexi hanc marginis exiguitas non caperet.)
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To: Steven W.
I made this with Word, default settings, except that the font was 11 points instead of 12. Here's the original, then the Word version. I didn't quite have the time to resize the Word screencap to the exact size but you can tell by comparing the letters that it's a perfect match.



12 posted on 09/09/2004 1:45:40 PM PDT by Nataku X (John sez: NO BLOOD FOR PURPLE HEARTS!)
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To: Steven W.

I wonder how many execs over at CBS are now taking a big dump in their pants? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!


15 posted on 09/09/2004 1:48:16 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: Steven W.
The 'rats ( mediac and democ ) have been pulling the wool over our eyes for so long and so unchallenged that they never needed to get real good at it. Sloppy was good enough.
16 posted on 09/09/2004 1:48:50 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis (Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)
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To: Steven W.

Why would anyone who was doing what he was doing WRITE A MEMO TO THE FILE ABOUT IT?? Duh...


21 posted on 09/09/2004 1:49:47 PM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: Steven W.
something is wrong with the link that was entered.

After reading stuff earlier this morning when it was first posted on Free Republic, I have been watching as the story developed. As someone old enough to have actually used an IBM Ball Selectric, I feel that some of the documents are likely fakes.

It is now be carried on Drudge and starting to get lots of play. Michael Medved picking it up should also expand the understanding by the public as to what has likely happened.

Just for fun, I went to the CBS news website to see what they had to say and if they were yet picking up this story and had any comments. As of about 1:35 Pm Pacific Time, they had no comment about the possiblity of the documents being fakes. I went to their links to view the documents they had on Bush's Texas service and only a few (i.e. not all) appear to have the obvious "th" and proportional font problems. This means that a few of the documents could be legitimate.

I used the contact us feature on the CBS website to submit a complaint to 60 minutes. My complaint pointed out that I had read a compelling discussion on how and why some of the documents were fakes and asked why CBS News and 60 Minutes would not immediately investigate, pull the stories and documents until a determination was made, and post a notice that questions had been raised. I then reminded them about some of the past 60 Minutes specials, one about a nuclear power plant utility executive interveiw, where the utility video taped the entire 60 minutes interview and proved that what 60 minutes aired was a distortion and the one where the ignighter flare was used to produce a nice fire in a truck crash so as to give dramatic footage, when the truck didn't catch fire in a crash. I then asked them if they were learning their craft from the New York Times.

I suggest that all Freepers go to the following URL to send CBS News a piece of their mind.

Link to CBS News 60 Minutes website

Then scroll down to the bottom of the page to the "Contact Us" Java link.

37 posted on 09/09/2004 2:03:27 PM PDT by Robert357
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Look, these memos that they showed have no credibility at all. The only one who can confirm it is dead....and even he would seem bogus. Look how unprofessional he is in the documents. He makes unsubstantiated allegations. THey are not in standard form. And the only guy that RATher had look at them...works for him.

Look at the documents...they are on this cbs story
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/06/politics/main641481.shtml

First off...they say these documents are from personal files. THAT SHOWS THEY ARE BOGUS. IF they were military docs...they would not just be in some dead man's personal file. They would be in the AF Records. They would also be copied to Bush's files.

The documents showed last night....are bogus. ON TOP OF THAT....NOTHING IN THOSE DOCUMENTS SHOW THAT BUSH DID NOT MEET HIS REQUIRED DRILL POINTS.


39 posted on 09/09/2004 2:07:06 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: Steven W.

CBS News
524 West 57th Street
NY, 10019-2902

Phone: (212) 975-4114, or
(212) 975-3691 for Dan Rather's office
Fax: (212) 975-1893


43 posted on 09/09/2004 2:14:38 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: All

ATTENTION FREEPERS

I need the link to the thread where freepers broke this story open.

ALSO- I need the name of the 4 Typography dudes who have said they are bogus.

I am about to speak with someone who is going to get that info to the Barlet types.

I NEED THIS NOW! PLEASE!

BARTLET IS BLOWING IT. He is giving the answers that the consultants tell him to give. That is what got kerry killed in the swing states.


47 posted on 09/09/2004 2:20:46 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: Steven W.

Bump.....


68 posted on 09/09/2004 3:01:40 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Steven W.

Love this pic.


72 posted on 09/09/2004 3:31:46 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Steven W.

bump


96 posted on 09/09/2004 5:58:35 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: Steven W.

1-- proportional spacing not generally available
2 -- superscripts not generally available
3 - small "th" single element not generally available
4 - Smart quotes. Curved apostrophes and quotation marks were not available
5-The blurriness of the copy indicates it was recopied dozens of times, tactic of forgers
6--Signature block. Typical authentic military signature block has name, then rank, then on the next line the person's position. This just has rank beneath the name.
7--Margins. These look like a computer's unjustified default, not the way a person typing would have done it.
8 -- Date usually with three letters, or in form as 110471.
9 - words run over consistent with word processor
10 - may be a Times Roman or similar font not generally available then (per Haas Atlas)
11 - signature looks faked
12 - no errors and whiteout
13 - no letterhead
14 - exact match for Microsoft Word Processor
15 - Paper size problem, Air Force and Guard did not use 8 1/2 x 11 inch paper until the 1980s.
16 - Overlap analysis is an exact match
17 - absence of hyphens to split words between lines, c/w 1970's typewriter.
18 - 5000 Longmont #8 in Houston Tx. does not exist
19 - Box 34567 is suspicious, at best. The current use of the po box 34567 is Ashland Chemical Company, A Division of Ashland Oil, Incorporated P. O. Box 34567 Houston
20 - it would have been nearly impossible to center a letterhead with proportional spacing without a computer.
21 - Bush's grade would "normally" be abbreviated "1Lt" not "1st Lt"
22 - Subject matter bizarre
23 - Air Force did not use street addresses for their offices, rather HQ AFLC/CC, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH 45433.
24 - kerning was not available
25 - In the August 18, 1973 memo, Jerry Killian purportedly writes: "Staudt has obviously pressured Hodges more about Bush. I'm having trouble running interference and doing my job." but General Staudt, who thought very highly of Lt. Bush, retired in 1972.
26 - Language not generally used by military
27 - Not signed or initialed
28 - Not in any format that a military person would use, e.g. orders not given by Memo.



103 posted on 09/09/2004 6:49:24 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Zealous Troll Hunter - and you know who you are - you've been warned.)
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WOW, ain't no typewriter in the world can do that. HAHAHAHAHA, caught with their pants down.


109 posted on 09/09/2004 9:54:03 PM PDT by Casloy (qs)
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