Posted on 09/09/2004 12:42:25 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
dics? Sorry, Freudian slip!
Any chance that the original documents paper could be dated? Or the watermarks dated?
"This is Dan Rather. It was reported, by a well known source (smile and blink) familiar with hurricane activity, that the GOP is behind the irregular number of storms ounding Florida this season. The unnamed source said that the GOP had started these hurricanes so that Florida residents would have large monetary losses."
Dan would of course add that "women and minorities were hardest hit by the destruction from the Republican President Bush's hurricanes."
I'm guessing that will be "corrected". CBS would certainly have mentioned it if they had come from the White House. Fact that the White House now accuses Kerry of being involved suggests they did not.
I believe Killian's wife's name is Nancy.
There are more problems than just the font. These FORGERIES are getting a thorough Fisking all over the internet. Go check out Captain's Quarters. Read the comments on his post regarding this CBS FORGERY story.
Didn't Castro blame the US a few years back for somehow steering a hurricane onto his kingdom?
Would that we could......
Somebody needs to tell WABC channel 7 in New York that these documents are fake. I am watching a story right now where they are bashing the President and discussing the documents. Oh geez, now they are showing FnK talking about sending a bill to Congress for affordable health care for everyone.
http://ynucc.yeungnam.ac.kr/~bwlee/midi/windsurf.mid
My nomination for Kerry's theme song.
"Said this will be the end of Don Hewitt at 60 Minutes and likely tarnish Rather forever."
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From your lips to God's ear...
bookmarking
FROM THE CNSNEWS SITE:
"The only thing it could be, possibly, is an IBM golf ball typewriter, which came out around the early to middle 1970s," Haley said. "Those did have proportional fonts on them. But they weren't widely used."
But Haley added that the use of the superscript "th" cast doubt on the use of any typewriter.
"There weren't any typewriters that did that," Haley said. "That looks like it might be a function of something like Microsoft Word, which does that automatically."
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I have made my living using typewriters and word processors for over 15 years. This is exactly right, especially the part about the superscript.
All of you who have MS Word on your computer, pull up a blank doc and type "111th F.I.S." -- or for that matter, "5th Avenue" or "31st Street" or any number with an ordinal suffix on it. See what automatically happens when you hit the space bar to move on to the next word. (This is an automatic standard feature in Word that you have to deliberately disable in order to stop it from doing that.)
BackHoe still the KING and CHAMPION of the Killer links.
My nomination for Kerry's theme song.
That midi is perfect!! LOL I second your nomination.
http://ynucc.yeungnam.ac.kr/~bwlee/lyrics/windsurf.htm
The lyrics are perfect for Kerry too!
Extremely important. Please confirm with frame capture that AP has posted another bogus story based on the bogus forged memos that the AP's own reporters have begun to discredit. Click here to see the new headline and the timeline.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/beltway/
Here is what the headlines and times look like. Very odd.
White House
Questions Raised About Bush Guard Service 9 Sep. 18:49:42
Son of Late Officer Questions Bush Memos 9 Sep. 15:35:38
Memos: Bush Refused Order While in Guard 9 Sep. 13:54:31
Timeline of Bush Service in National Guard 9 Sep. 10:01:57
Text of Memos About Bush Suspension 9 Sep. 09:59:16
Memos: Bush Suspended From Guard Flying 9 Sep. 07:32:47
Thank you!
-T
Here is the text of the new story that totally ignores the previous story and the doubts cast on the memos? Is the AP in denial? Is the reporter (Terrence Hunt) in denial?
Today: September 09, 2004 at 18:53:04 PDT
Questions Raised About Bush Guard Service
By TERENCE HUNT
ASSOCIATED PRESS
WASHINGTON (AP) -
0909bush-records New documents unearthed in the midst of the presidential campaign fill in some blanks but raise other questions about the sometimes mysterious and spotty story of President Bush's military service during Vietnam when he won a coveted spot in the Texas Air National Guard and avoided the war.
Reviving issues that have shadowed his political career, the documents show Bush ignored a direct order from a superior officer and lost his status as a Texas Air National Guard pilot more than three decades ago because he failed to meet military performance standards and undergo a required physical examination.
The disclosures marked the second time in days the White House had to backtrack from assertions that all of Bush's records had been released. It also raised the specter that Bush sought favors from higher-ups and that the commander of the Texas Air National Guard wanted to "sugar coat" Bush's record after he was suspended from flying.
Less than two months before the election, the documents turned the spotlight on Bush after weeks of political attacks questioning John Kerry's military service in Vietnam. Overshadowing issues such as jobs and the economy, that controversy raised doubts about Kerry and hurt him in the polls.
Kerry, campaigning in Iowa, refused to talk Thursday about the new Bush documents. "That's for the White House to answer," he said in an Associated Press interview. Presidential spokesman Scott McClellan said, "I think you absolutely are seeing a coordinated attack by John Kerry and his surrogates on the president."
Yet, it was the White House - not Kerry's campaign - that distributed four memos from 1972 and 1973 from Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, now deceased, who was the commander of the 111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron in Houston where Bush served. The White House obtained the memos from CBS News, which said it was convinced of their authenticity, and the White House did not question their accuracy. There was no explanation why the Pentagon was unable to find the documents on its own.
The key questions about Bush's service are whether or where he trained in late 1972 and early 1973, why he skipped the required medical exam, and whether he was investigated or punished for skipping the exam and six months' worth of training in 1972.
Bush has adamantly denied that any strings were pulled to get him into the guard. Yet, former Texas House Speaker Ben Barnes, a Democrat who now supports Kerry, has stepped forward to say he helped Bush and the sons of other wealthy families get into the guard so they could avoid serving in Vietnam.
Bush completed basic training in August, 1968, and by early 1970 was assigned as a pilot of F-102 interceptors in the 111th Squadron at Ellington Air Force Base. Killian, the squadron commander, ordered Bush in May, 1972, to undergo his annual physical, the new memos show.
Later in May, Killian said in his memo that he'd had conversations with Bush "of how Bush can get out of coming to drill from now through November" because Bush wanted to go to Alabama to work on a political campaign.
Killian wrote that they talked about Bush getting his flight physical and that Bush said he would do it in Alabama if he remained in flight status. But he said Bush said he "may not have the time." The memo said Bush was "talking to someone upstairs" about the Alabama transfer.
The same memo also made clear that Killian was concerned about the fact that the military had spent a substantial amount of money training Bush to fly.
"I advised him of our investment in him and his commitment," he wrote in the memo.
On Aug. 1, 1972, Killian ordered that Bush "be suspended from flight status due to failure to perform to (United States Air Force/Texas Air National Guard) standards and failure to meet annual physical examination (flight) as ordered."
Killian said he wanted a formal inquiry into the circumstances surrounding the flight suspension. No records have surfaced that one was ever conducted.
A year later, in August, 1973, Killian wrote a memo that said SUBJECT: CYA.
He said that Walter B. Staudt, the Texas Air National Guard commander, was pressuring one of Bush's superiors who two years earlier had rated Bush an outstanding pilot. Killian said, "I'm having trouble running interference and doing my job." Killian said that Staudt "is pushing to sugar coat" Bush's rating. "Bush wasn't here during rating period and I don't have any feedback from 187th in Alabama. I will not rate."
Democratic Party chairman Terry McAuliffe said, "George W. Bush's cover story on his National Guard service is rapidly unraveling. ... George W. Bush needs to answer why he regularly misled the American people about his time in the Guard and who applied political pressure on his behalf to have his performance reviews 'sugarcoated'"
White House communications director Dan Bartlett said Bush did not take the physical because he was not going to be in a flying capacity in Alabama. "Those who are trying to read the mind of a person dead 20 years are stretching at best. The president at every turn did what he was told to do."
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On the Web:
http://wid.ap.org/documents/bush/040908xfer.pdf
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Indeed. Thanks for the ping!
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