Posted on 09/09/2004 6:42:06 AM PDT by Sue Bob
Dead for 20 years or not, he still sounds a bit paranoid, unless of course he lied to himself in his memo, as many on the left have been known to do.
In fact, I would venture to guess the forger is too young to have ever typed a document on anything other than a computer.
Here is the re-creation of the memo in Microsoft Word on Little Green Footballs: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=12526
Now tell me you believe that is a coincidence.
Who was the Kintoon foot soldier who "lied" to his private diary?
That was Josh Stiener (sp) who lied to his diary.
Drudge is now reporting the CBS documents might be fake.
Oh man, politics really is almost as good as sex.
One more thing:
If anyone tries to discredit the LGF analysis by importing both documents into a graphics program and overlaying them, be aware that faxing reduces the size of a document. Damn, I used to know why that is...
Yes. Well, like a lot of propaganda this particular fraud (if such it be, and apparently it is) was transmitted to the public via the "public" airwaves.They got away with deceiving Florida Panhandle voters into thinking the 2000 vote was decided at a moment when their vote was criticallly important - and the next day they mentioned it momentarily and then permanently changed the subject.
At some point somebody has to sue the FCC and its licensees for the fraudulent certification that CBS is "broadcasting in the public interest." Theoretically, at least, deceiving the public with a broadcast is illegal.
Look at this: http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/000838.php
"After contacting several experts, a rather notable Forensic Document Examiner named Dr. Philip Bouffard took the time to examine a pdf of the documents and perform an initial visual analysis of their authenticity. Dr. Bouffard has a PhD in Chemistry from the University of Michigan, but got involved in forensic examination of typefaces after working in “graphics” with NCR until 1973 and taking a two-year Certification Program in Document Examination at Georgetown University. After completing the program, he became specifically interested in typewriter classification and went to work for a prosecutor’s crime lab in Lake County, Ohio.
Using something called the Haas Atlas, the definitive collection of various typefaces, Mr. Bouffard (and other forensic document examiners) examined the veracity of various documents for over 30 years. Beginning in 1988, Mr. Bouffard hired a programmer to write a computer database program that catalogues the nearly 4,000 typefaces that appear in the Haas Atlas. This computer program is now a forensic standard that is sold as a companion to the Haas Atlas by American Society of Questioned Document Examiners (ASQDE). Though semi-retired, Dr. Bouffard is one of the top two experts in forensic document examination (regarding typefaces) in the country.
UPDATE: The name of the program that Dr. Bouffard developed is called "The Typewriter Typestyle Classification Program" (C:\TYPE).
What did Dr. Bouffard think of the documents?
First, the necessary caveats:
• The pdf document is of poor quality. It seems to have been copied and recopied several times, blurring letter characteristics.
• Also, certain types of analysis can only be done on the original documents, which don’t seem to be available, even to CBS.
So Dr. Bouffard is very clear that his analysis is not 100% positive. That being said …
“It’s just possible that this might be a Times Roman font, which means that it would have been created on a computer. It’s very possible that someone decided to create this document on a computer... I’ve run across this situation before … my gut is this could just well be a fabrication.”
The reasons why?"
snip
"UPDATE: Dr. Bouffard called me again, and after further analysis, he says that he's pretty certain that it's a fake.
Here's why
* He looked through old papers he's written, and noted that he's come up against the inconsistency of the "4" several previous times with forgeries that attempt to duplicate old proportional spaced documents with a computer word processing program.
* Regarding the small "th" after the date, Dr. Bouffard told me that it was possible to order specialty keys that would duplicate the automatic miniaturization completed by word processors after a numerical date, but it was certainly not standard, and wouldn't make a lot of sense in a military setting. "That by itself, while suspicious, is not impossible, but in conjunction with the (font irregularity of the) number four, it is really significant," he said.
* Dr. Bouffard said that signature analysis isn't that relevant because the signature could have easily been copied and pasted onto one of the photocopied forgeries from another document.
* He said that he didn't know who CBS contacted to verify the document's authenticity, but that there is really only one other man that may be more qualified to determine authentic typefaces than himself. I think that the burden of proof may be on CBS to reveal this information.
I asked him to put a percentage on the chances that this was a fake, and he said that was "hard to put a number on it." I then suggested "90%?" Again he said it's "hard to put an exact number, but I'd say it's at least that high, sure. I pretty much agree that that font is Times New Roman.""
Hillary's people gave 60 Minutes these fake docs in order to destroy Kerry!!
. . . until and unless they are haled into federal court and asked to show cause why they should not be held personally responsible for patent nonfeasance.That's a long shot, I know. But the idealist in me wants to believe that it is possible to get a SCOTUS which would uphold the law. We don't have one now, that's as certain as the "constitutionality" of CFR.
I think CYA has been used since Adam blamed Eve.
LOL
Lawrence Korb is a real POS AND a Clintonista! Hillary COUld hvae given these to Korb and had Korb give the fake docs to CBS n order to sink Kerry!
Terry McAuliffe would be the guy C-BS contacted for authentication.
Yea, and it had green and white horizontal stripes. Even the Selectric based printers (IE they used the type-ball and other mechanisms of the Selectric without the keyboard) had tractor feed, as did the daisy wheel type printers, and most dot matrix printers too.
Of course many a lonely civilian secretary was seduced by a KGB gigolo and then the extra carbons of the "good stuff" went right to Moscow Center.
"Of course many a lonely civilian secretary was seduced by a KGB gigolo and then the extra carbons of the "good stuff" went right to Moscow Center."
We were briefed on a bunch of those scenarios. LoL. I was just waiting for a handsome foreigner to try to seduce me for my "secrets" and then I could have turned him in. I had the phone number in my wallet at all times, as we were supposed to call at once if we were approached by a suspicious agent. Alas it never happened. I still have the worn out card somewhere . . . ;)
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