Posted on 09/08/2004 3:56:08 PM PDT by granite
The board of the Log Cabin Republicans, the largest group for gay men and lesbians in the party, has voted overwhelmingly against endorsing President George Bush for re-election because of his support for a proposed constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.
The decision ends six months of soul-searching as the group, which endorsed Mr Bush in 2000 and Bob Dole in 1996, has wrestled with its divided loyalties.
Although the group was immediately critical when the President announced his support for the amendment in February, it refrained from ruling out an endorsement. Its effort to balance loyalty to the party with opposition to a major item on the Republican agenda has made it the target of criticism from both supporters and opponents of the proposed amendment.
As delegates at the Republican national convention prepared to adopt a platform condemning gay parents, for example, a handful of gay rights activists protested outside a Log Cabin party on August 29 in New York. In a meeting on Tuesday night in Washington, the group's board voted 22-2 to withhold its endorsement, a spokesman said.
In a statement afterwards, Log Cabin Republicans executive director Patrick Guerriero cited exit polls showing that more than a million gay men and lesbians voted for Mr Bush in 2000. That included 45,000 in the pivotal state of Florida, which Mr Bush carried by about 500 votes.
"Some will accuse us of being disloyal," Mr Guerriero said. "It was actually the White House who was disloyal" to those gay voters.
However, he said the group "proudly supported the President's firm leadership in the war on terror."
The group also denounced what it called "flip-flops" by Democratic candidate John Kerry, referring to statements that he opposed same-sex marriage and favoured state constitutional amendments to ban it.
Log Cabin chairman William Brownson said the organisation planned to "shift our financial and political resources to defeating the radical right", partly by supporting sympathetic Republican candidates for Congress.
The group's first advertising campaign, which began last week, quoted former president Ronald Reagan's statement that he hoped he "appealed to your best hopes, not your worst fears".
Good!
Everytime I hear the term "Log CabinRepublicans" I get a mental image of something and it is not a log cabin.
There are plenty of gays who DO want the conservative agenda. They just want to be included in it, that's all. Sexuality is out of the equation for conservatives; they just want the same legal status, insurance, etc.
You are wrong. You are mixing up liberal gays (the great majority, I admit) with conservative gays. The latter do want what we want, in that order, but they want to be included.
In the meantime we will end up defending their freedom from terrorists who according to the Quran think homosexuals are the lowest life forms on earth.
Half right. Liberal gays want that. But the truth is, those liberal, promiscuous gays do not really want marriage, with all its drawbacks. They are just shouting "for show" to get what you said above. However, conservative gays either do not want gay "marriage" but only equal rights re insurance, etc., or they simply want to be able to live a committed life recognized by society although they know and admit they will never reach the historical meaning behind the perfect union of a man and a woman.
It's about normalizing all forms of sexual activities and the destruction of ancient historical concepts of family. The goal is to obliterate the family as the foundation of society and replace it with socialist bureaucracies of experts and their minions of underlings.
I used to think the same thing. I think it's more simple for the gay couples I know. They just want to be able to live a better life, one very much like the straight couple next door.
Both gay couples I know really want the insurance coverage from their partner's work. My dear friend, a lesbian, has terminal cancer. Her partner is a doctor. If only she were able to reap spousal coverage. At least they do have resources but many do not.
I used to be UPSET at the thought of gays getting spousal insurance coverage. However, they are not taking away any coverage from straight people. In an office, the workers are either straight or gay. It is not logical that they are given spousal coverage only because they are straight. That is actually discrimination. It's not about being "PC," it's just fair.
Gays are not going away, folks. Let's draw them toward our party since they are here anyway.
Can you believe the irony???
Everyone should keep theirs out of other's faces.
So, in short, being gay is not an issue. It's their demanding that we alter established Holy Institutions to accommodate them that's the issue.
I think that we should never alter our religious ceremonies to accomodate them. However, see my previous post for the insurance issue that does adversely affect gays.
Problem is the vast majority of homosexuals support the radical gay agenda either by active vocal support or by silent compliance. Very few speak out against the psychosis of the radical homosexuals.
There is nothing conservative about gay marriage whatsoever.
"Sexuality is out of the equation for conservatives; they just want the same legal status, insurance, etc."
Sexuality is out of the question for me and my buds. We only have sex when nature calls in a totally uncommitted fashion with random groups of loose women. Perpetual diverisity in this matter is, in our veiw, the only way to go. We just want the same legal status. We'd all like each of our employers extend benefits to each and every one of us. When any employer throws a party, we all want to be invited. If one of us dies we want to split up the toys between us and we don't want to share with the gov. If one of us decides they want to be a stay at home old lady and gets sick we want somebody else's employer to have provided health insurance.
We all love each other and demand everyone else does to, that way we'll feel good and promise to vote for folks you like. If you don't give us all the recognition and bennies we demand we'll vote for any commie that comes along that will.
Insurance, ect... is not a right, neither is health care, ect... It is payment negotiated in a labor contract, it is not an entitlement. If they don't beleive that, then they are not conservative.
My mother is sick and needs insurance. But I can't put her on my insurance coverage. I love my mother dearly. Am I being discriminated against?
"Gay Group Refuses to Grow Up."
To Andrew Sullivan, the ability to become some guy's wife trumps the security of our nation. That tells you about all you need to know about his sorry ass.
One of the top driving forces for "gay marriage" is their desire to foist the expenses for their ugly diseases off on the mass of the American public. Just follow the money. They want medical coverage for AIDS and other plumbing problems.
If some professional gay has great medical benefits that can include his partner this makes him a more desirable marriage partner or just domestic partner. If he works for a corporation or government that extend coverage to gays. Maybe it's the older, sophisticated gay dudes driving this (gay marriage) to enhance their access to young gay butt
Precisely!
YOU are wrong, again. If 'conservative' gays want to be 'included', they can keep their perverted ways at home, and support us on the war on terror, tax cuts, tax reform, etc.
Man that makes a lot of sense. They want what we want? We don't want to practice perversion, nor do we want to force other people to accept it as normal. Plus we do not put our sexuality before national security, and other important issues.
You are doing a good job isolating the left wing gays, form the 'few' so-called 'republican gays'; nice try. They are all gay, and they want the same thing when it comes to their perverted life style.
Spoken like a true California Republican...
Any Republican group who places their sex life ahead of the #1 issue of our day--NATIONAL SECURITY--should not be Republicans.
Go join the scum and becomne a DemocRAT.
Principles over party!
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