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Genesis space probe parachute did not open.
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Posted on 09/08/2004 8:59:52 AM PDT by evets

failure!

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: darngravity; diditbounce; genesis; genesisspacecapsule; genesisspaceprobe; gravityofsituation; gravitysucks; nasa; notmyfault; science; snafu; space
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To: evets
The Wrath of Khan
301 posted on 09/08/2004 2:50:01 PM PDT by traumer
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To: RadioAstronomer; snopercod

46 - "Sigh."


Appropriate comment.

IRRC We have already done this successfully several times over the years from on orbit. But, this time - 'no drogue chute', to pull out the main chute. And they used the 'fancy' square aerodynamic chute, which makes a much softer landing, but which is much harder to pull out, and absolutely needs a drogue chute to open the main chute,

Sometimes the old ways are better.

But (and I don't want to open the argument again), until we develop alternative propulsion systems, this is just one of the many problems we will continue to encounter.


302 posted on 09/08/2004 4:08:31 PM PDT by XBob (Free-traitors steal our jobs for their profit.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Does that have something to do with spy sats?


303 posted on 09/08/2004 5:19:31 PM PDT by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: michigander; Smokin' Joe

Dugway? Did I miss something?


304 posted on 09/08/2004 5:43:15 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: RadioAstronomer; PatrickHenry
Sorry, I really cannot say anymore on this.

Admit it. Come one; admit it -- you and your space alien friends conspired to disable the parachute recovery system so the craft would crash, destroying it's precious cargo, and denying Earthlings the chance to discern the Secrets of the Universe!

Admit it! You and your anal-probing pals are up to your eyeballs (all three of them!) in a conspiracy spanning the galaxy! You can't hide the truth from me; I figured it out with pure geometric logic!

Do you take us Earthlings for fools? You and your extra-terrestrial torpedo-headed friends are sadly mistaken; we are on to you, and you won't get away with this!

Now, as for the missing strawberries, I was saying there had to be an extra key the the ward room......

305 posted on 09/08/2004 6:14:03 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: longshadow; RadioAstronomer

The destruction of this probe has once again protected the secrets of Uranus, and preserved the purity of your essence.


306 posted on 09/08/2004 6:39:35 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
The destruction of this probe has once again protected the secrets of Uranus, and preserved the purity of your essence.

May the excreta of a thousand platypii infest your Satanic anti-gravity project!

;-)

307 posted on 09/08/2004 6:43:22 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: evets

Did this cause a "FIRE" like in "The Andromeda Strain".
Paging Arthur Hill and James Olsen.


308 posted on 09/08/2004 6:43:59 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: longshadow
May the excreta of a thousand platypii infest your Satanic anti-gravity project!

May the sacred Treasure of Uranus remain eternally shrouded in methane vapors and forever safe from unholy probes.

309 posted on 09/08/2004 6:52:31 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry

In a response, apes everywhere are eagerly looking forward to their upcoming revolt.


310 posted on 09/08/2004 6:58:43 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (John Kerry was a Ramblin' Man, not a Running Man, on the last night of the RNC.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
God does want us to marvel at His work.

Yea verily brother, I do indeed.


311 posted on 09/08/2004 9:08:28 PM PDT by asgardshill (By direct order, I LOVE ALAN KEYES!)
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To: Shryke
Tell me, please.

Why should I waste my time on you again. We've had this discussion before, and you didn't learn anything then either. But for the record: Wealth transfer is not just taxation it's SPENDING. The means of taxation are not as important as the unconstitutional use of the money; if it weren't for the government's SPENDING money on things that are flat out unconstitutional like welfare, education, space program, the so-called "arts", etc. then we'd all have a lot more money to put into the things that we thought were important.

312 posted on 09/09/2004 3:03:01 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: asgardshill

313 posted on 09/09/2004 5:30:56 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (I am not late for Zots, I have stealth Zot capability.....)
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To: evets

Looks like the Kerry presidential campaign.


314 posted on 09/09/2004 5:34:11 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: Conservomax
Correct. Early spy satellites dropped film cannisters from orbit, which deployed parachutes and were then snatched in mid-air by USAF cargo planes. The whole program was remarkably successful; only one RV was missed. It's (still) on the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. Unless a whale ate it.

So the idea is not a "hare-brained scheme", it's been successfully tested and used operationally in the past. Really sucks when the 'chute doesn't deploy, though.

315 posted on 09/09/2004 6:16:21 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Just damn.

An understatement. :(

316 posted on 09/09/2004 7:46:39 AM PDT by Aracelis
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To: ArrogantBustard

Ahhh, That I did not know. Maybe it was theHollywood "Stunt pilots" line that raised my eyebrows. any corona links?


317 posted on 09/09/2004 9:11:57 AM PDT by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: All

(don't have ping list in my lab)

Got this in an email today.

GENESIS SCIENTISTS BOUNCING BACK FROM HARD LANDING

Scientists, who conducted the preliminary assessment of
the Genesis canister, are encouraged by what they see. They
believe it may be possible to achieve the most important
portions of their science objectives.

"We are bouncing back from a hard landing, and spirits are
picking up again," said Orlando Figueroa, Deputy Associate
Administrator for Programs for the Science Mission
Directorate at NASA Headquarters in Washington.

"This may result in snatching victory from the jaws of
defeat," added Dr. Roger Wiens of the Los Alamos National
Laboratory, a member of the Genesis science team. "We are
very encouraged."

Based on initial inspection, it is possible a repository of
solar wind materials may have survived that will keep the
science community busy for some time.

"We are pleased and encouraged by the preliminary
inspection," said NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe. "The
outstanding design and sturdy construction of Genesis may
yield the important scientific results we hoped for from the
mission," he said.

"I want to emphasize the excellent work by the navigation
team to bring the capsule back exactly on target was key in
our ability to recover the science," said Andrew Dantzler,
Director of the Solar System Division at NASA Headquarters,
Washington. "In addition, the robustness of the design of the
spacecraft was the reason it could take such a hard landing
and still give us a chance to recover the samples," he said.

The mission's main priority is to measure oxygen isotopes to
determine which of several theories is correct regarding the
role of oxygen in the formation of the solar system.
Scientists hope to determine this with isotopes collected in
the four target segments of the solar wind concentrator
carried by the Genesis spacecraft.

"From our initial look, we can see that two of the four
concentrator segments are in place, and all four may be
intact," Wiens said.

The mission's second priority is to analyze nitrogen isotopes
that will help understand how the atmospheres of the planets
in our solar system evolved. "These isotopes will be analyzed
using gold foil, which we have also found intact," Wiens
said.

Other samples of solar winds are contained on hexagonal
wafers. It appears these are all or nearly all broken, but
sizable pieces will be recovered, and some are still mounted
in their holders. "We won't really know how many can be
recovered for some time, but we are far more hopeful
important science can be conducted than we were on
Wednesday," Wiens said.

Another type of collector material, foils contained on the
canister's lid, were designed to collect other isotopes in
the solar wind. It appears approximately three-fourths of
these are recoverable, according to Dr. Dave Lindstrom,
Mission Program Scientist at NASA Headquarters. However,
these foils have been exposed to elements of the Utah desert.


318 posted on 09/10/2004 3:04:04 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: PatrickHenry; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Physicist; MikeD; edwin hubble; Ichneumon; Alamo-Girl

Ping for some good news on the subject from RadioAstronomer


319 posted on 09/10/2004 3:23:30 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (<A HREF=http://www.michaelmoore.com>disingenuous filmmaker</A>)
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To: RadioAstronomer

This is very encouraging.


320 posted on 09/10/2004 4:21:59 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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