Posted on 09/08/2004 7:44:19 AM PDT by Tacis
Kerry signed this peace treaty while in the Naval Researve. Carter had to pardon him.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1209454/posts?page=59#59
Not only was Kerry IN Paris. Kerry was a signer of the“People’s Peace Treaty.” A “people’s” declaration to end the war, drawnup in communist East Germany. It included nine points, all of which were taken from VietCong peace proposals at the Paris peace talks as conditionsfor ending the war
The People's Peace Treaty
BETWEEN THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES, SOUTH VIETNAM & NORTH VIETNAM
Be it known that the American and Vietnamese people are not enemies. The war is carried out in the names of the people of the United States and South Vietnam but without our consent. It destroys the land and people of Vietnam. It drains America of its resources, its youth and its honor.
We hereby agree to end the war on the following terms, so that both peoples can live under the joy of independence and can devote themselves to building a society based on human equality and respect for the earth. In rejecting the war we also reject all forms of racism and discrimination against people based on color, class, sex, national origin and ethnic grouping which forms the basis of the war policies, present and past, of the United States.
1. The Americans agree to immediate and total withdrawal from Vietnam, and publicly to set the date by which all U.S. military forces will be removed.
2. The Vietnamese pledge that as soon as the U.S. government publicly sets a date for total withdrawal, they will enter discussions to secure the release of all American prisoners, including pilots captured while bombing North Vietnam.
3. There will be an immediate case-fire between U.S. forces and those led by the Provisional Revolutionary Government of South Vietnam.
4. They will enter discussions on the procedures to guarantee the safety of all withdrawing troops.
5. The Americans pledge to end the imposition of Thieu, Ky and Khiem on the people of South Vietnam in order to insure their right to self-determination, and so that all political prisoners can be released.
6. The Vietnamese pledge to form a provisional coalition government to organize democratic elections. All parties agree to respect the results of elections in which all South Vietnamese can participate freely without the presence of any foreign troops.
7. The South Vietnamese pledge to enter discussion of procedures to guarantee the safety and political freedom of those South Vietnamese who have collaborated with the U.S. or with the U.S.-supported regime.
8. The Americans and Vietnamese agree to respect the independence, peace and neutrality of Laos and Cambodia in accord with the 1954 and 1962 Geneva conventions, and not to interfere in the internal affairs of these two countries.
9. Upon these points of agreement, we pledge to end the war and resolve all other questions in the spirit of self-determination and mutual respect for the independence and political freedom of the people of Vietnam and the United States.
By ratifying this agreement, we pledge to take whatever actions are appropriate to implement the terms of this Joint Treaty of Peace, and to insure its acceptance by the government of the United States.
South Vietnam National Student Union
South Vietnam Liberation Student Union
North Vietnam Student Union
National Student Association
Saigon, Hanoi and Paris, December 1970
Signed: Amongst others, John F. Kerry!
Adopted by New University Conference and Chicago Movement Meeting, January 8-10, 1971
Bump
On 16 April, the Chairman of the Senate Select Committee, Senator John Kerry, stated that he gave the order to destroy "extraneous copies of the documents" and that no one objected. Moreover, he stated that the issue was "moot" because the original remained in the Office of Senate Security "all along."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1209454/posts?page=187#187
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1209454/posts?page=189#189
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1209454/posts?page=190#190
Actually, in this instance, it would be libel (slander is verbal, libel written), if Kerry were not a public figure. The fact that he is means that he is subject to such charges without legal recourse. That is why Ted Kennedy can get on the floor of the Senate and accuse the President of going to war for oil. If the court-martial charge is true, then both slander and libel are wrong. And any attempted defense would be predicated on Kerry releasing his military records... something he has refused to do.
2. Dumb. Listen to the tapes of Noxon going off on Kerry. Is they ANY chance he would not have found out and brought it up if Kerry had such a blemish on his record? NO.
Yes. Plenty of chances. There are many facts about Kerry's service and actions after the war that were not known at the time. Why didn't Nixon bring up the phony Purple Hearts, or the Winter Soldier liars, or Kerry meeting with the Viet Cong, or... the list goes on and on.
3. Counterproductive. There are plenty of things to knock Kerry for that can be documented. Wasting time and bandwidth on Kerry was court martialed/ Kerry was got a bad conduct discharge fantasies doesn't just use up resources better put to good uses, it gives Kerry's supporters in the MSM the chance to dismiss ALL charges against Kerry as unfounded, because some people are making clearly unfounded charges.
I seem to remember the same arguments about the Swift Vets, and they single-handedly blew Kerry's "Reporting for Duty" BS out of the water. There is a compelling reason to ask Kerry how a 6 year service takes 10 years to complete. What happened to those missing four years. Did he re-enlist after going before the Senate and calling the US Military the Army of Ghengis Khan? Or does he have another reason. Perhaps a court-martial that was then covered by Carter's amnesty, letting Kerry re-apply for a discharge. It is a legitimate question given the issues involved. Can a CIC have a court-martial in his background? It would help explain why Kerry won't make his records public. The electorate deserves an answer, and as long as Kerry refuses to release all of his records, he has only himself to blame.
A US Government agency had to provide that document to the Senate committee, so it must still exist.
One option that is left out is that Kerry was an FBI, DOD mole in the antiwar movement.
Now that you mention it, I recall honorable dischages from reserves to accept commission and from final separation. Probably one from release from active duty, too. I haven't looked in those files in 20 years.
I lean towards KGB
I lean towards, both.
How would you explain him leaving all of our POWs overseas if he 'were' FBI?
I voted "purposely disceitful"...I do not believe them to be traitors, in that they were no longer in uniform and had a 1st amendment right to their opinion.
I didn't say he was or that I can explain it, only that that is an option.
Having not read the report, I don't have any idea what it says.
I do believe that we left POW's.
Interesting theory.
The date has me intrigued - 1977.
Kerry's own website states he was discharged in 1978, which was surprise for everyone, leading the kool-aid drinker to believe the theory (without overtly lying) that he was in the Reserves (even though no record exists of him ever serving the minimum requirements of two weeks a year, one week-end a month.
This is something that should be followed up.
POWs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1209454/posts?page=166#166
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1209454/posts?page=169#169
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1209454/posts?page=170#170
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1209454/posts?page=171#171
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1209454/posts?page=172#172
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1209454/posts?page=173#173
Kerry's Cover up:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1209454/posts?page=47#47
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1209454/posts?page=201#201
Testimony of Michael D. Benge
before the House International Relations Committee
Chaired by the Honorable Benjamin A. Gilman,
November 4, 1999.
My name is Michael D. Benge. While serving as a civilian Economic Development Officer in the Central Highlands of South Viet Nam, I was captured by the North Vietnamese during the Tet Offensive on January 28, 1968.
You've got that right.
Now the conundrum.
Kerry reenacted all of his "bravery" for the vidoe camera for a planned documentary to be released in October. I believe Brinkly is attached to it, but don't take my word for it.
Will he dare to release this video and bring up SBVT right before the election?
Will be interesting to see. It's plain he is a disgrace, but exactly where does his lack of self-awareness fall.
Would any of this pardon information have any bearing at all on his revised medal citations? For example, would he have been required to have an honorable discharge or a clean record before making the request?
The reason I'm asking is that he could have done it much sooner, but he didn't.
Or perhaps he did it as soon as he got to the Senate and it is only a time issue.
Thankfully, that thread I put up has NAMES and the camps listed.
This is out of the bag. They can't cover this any more.
I wonder if Bush had this 'included' in his SOTU when he referenced Human Trafficking?
I'll go back and read your post and see what I find.
You receive a DD-214 when released from active duty, EAS, not when your obligation is over, EOS.
Your entire post is a waste of bandwidth. You want Kerrys records, file a FOIA request.
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