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Bush fell short on duty at GuardRecords show pledges unmet
Boston Globe ^ | 9/8/04 | Stephen Kurkjian, Francie Latour and Walter V. Robinson, found guilty in libel case

Posted on 09/07/2004 10:00:01 PM PDT by alydar

In February, when the White House made public hundreds of pages of President Bush's military records, White House officials repeatedly insisted that the records prove that Bush fulfilled his military commitment in the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam War.

But Bush fell well short of meeting his military obligation, a Globe reexamination of the records shows: Twice during his Guard service -- first when he joined in May 1968, and again before he transferred out of his unit in mid-1973 to attend Harvard Business School -- Bush signed documents pledging to meet training commitments or face a punitive call-up to active duty.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
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Tom(my daughter is a paid speech writer for the Kerry campaign) does not have his name associated with this
1 posted on 09/07/2004 10:00:01 PM PDT by alydar
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To: alydar

Go to the following website for the truth:

http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=9259

OBVIOUSLY you know nothing about the military, I am former USNR...BUSH fulfilled his duty and the garbage from the KERRY SMEAR CAMPAIGN are all lies.


2 posted on 09/07/2004 10:04:34 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: alydar

"We come from the land of ice and snow...."


3 posted on 09/07/2004 10:06:03 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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Boston Globe Article, Shorter Version:

No new information, just a lot of spin and speculation.


4 posted on 09/07/2004 10:06:32 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com/)
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To: alydar

Bush fulfilled his military obligation by wiping out the Ba-athist regime in Iraq and capturing and killing two-thirds of the al-Qaeda leadership.

I'll put that up against Patton.


5 posted on 09/07/2004 10:07:57 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: Kackikat

Don't worry about it. They've been smearing Bush for years now. This is an old hand. All they are doing is displaying gross media bias and further deteriorating their own credibility. They defend Kerry and attack Bush. It's routine.


6 posted on 09/07/2004 10:07:59 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: alydar
This information is just another vulgar distraction courtesy exclusively of Democrat desperation. Unlike the pantywaist candidate of the Left, President Bush did not make his military service of 35 years ago the cornerstone of his candidacy.

Besides, all Democrat outrage on this issue rings completely hollow considering their disdain for war heroes' George H.W. Bush and Bob Dole and their kneepad reverence for the proven draft-dodger, Bill Clinton.

7 posted on 09/07/2004 10:08:27 PM PDT by Prime Choice (Democrats. They want to have their cake and eat yours too.)
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To: Kackikat

Great Post - but who wants to read the truth (/sarcasm)


8 posted on 09/07/2004 10:08:36 PM PDT by 11th_VA (While Kerry lied, good men died ...)
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To: alydar
Michael Moore has some competition.

This piece of filth is slanderous. If GWB wasn't a public figure, the Globe wouldn't dare publish it - when Dubya was done suing them he'd be their new owner.

9 posted on 09/07/2004 10:08:39 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: alydar
Same old line we have been hearing for 4 years. Bush made up his missed meetings just like thousands of others. This practice goes on to this day.

However I don't see that Kerry made up the two years of meetings he missed of his ready reserve obligations from 1970 to 1972.

10 posted on 09/07/2004 10:09:34 PM PDT by Taxbilly
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"We come from the land of ice and snow...."

Awww c'mon...at least let us play with our food before we have to kill it.

We oughta rename these critters "Meow Mix"... ; )

11 posted on 09/07/2004 10:10:44 PM PDT by Prime Choice (Democrats. They want to have their cake and eat yours too.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

AT which time a bonfire and weenie roast would be appropriate.


12 posted on 09/07/2004 10:10:45 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Slings and Arrows

I agree ,it's the same old story and I'm getting killed for posting this but I thought we should be aware of the enemy's strategy.


14 posted on 09/07/2004 10:11:51 PM PDT by alydar
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To: Kackikat

As long as the mustard isn't from Heinz.


15 posted on 09/07/2004 10:12:19 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: alydar

Actually, the claim that Bush should have reported to a unit in Boston is a new one.

However, the universe of hard information (i.e., the docs) is basically unchanged from when this story last raged many months ago.

This just shows how truly pathetic Kerry is. He has nothing to run on.


16 posted on 09/07/2004 10:15:09 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com/)
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To: alydar

The BIG LIE in this story is that no one has stepped forward with a recollection of Bush being at the Alabama base. There were about 8 such witnesses that came forward back in February of this year.


17 posted on 09/07/2004 10:16:22 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com/)
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To: Slings and Arrows

OH Yeah...need some "W" mustard to go with the Ketchup.


18 posted on 09/07/2004 10:17:01 PM PDT by Kackikat
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1079367/posts

Former Dannelly worker: Bush not AWOL

By Eric Fleischauer

DAILY Staff Writer

eric@decaturdaily.com · 340-2435

Retired Master Sgt. James Copeland does not care so much whether people think President Bush went absent without leave in 1972, but one thing he hears bothers him plenty.

"Maybe the Bush family was well known in Texas, but we didn't know who he was here. He was just another guy in a flight jacket," Copeland said Sunday.

Copeland, who lives in Hartselle, retired from the Air Force on Jan. 31, 1980. He was the disbursement accounting supervisor, a full-time position, for Dannelly Air National Guard Base in Montgomery from Oct. 28, 1971, to Oct. 27, 1975. His office was less than 100 yards from the hangar where Bush performed drills.

Rumors say Bush went AWOL while assisting Winton "Red" Blount in an unsuccessful campaign for U.S. Senate focus on 1972 and 1973.

Copeland, 65, remembers meeting Bush on two occasions. He does not remember the precise dates. On one occasion, Copeland said, Bush and Lt. Col. John "Bill" Calhoun came to Copeland's office with a question about Bush's pay. Copeland is not sure, but he believes the question had to do with where to mail Bush's checks.

Bush was never a member of the Alabama National Guard, he just did his drills here. For that reason, Copeland thinks he referred the pay question to the paymaster for the Texas National Guard.

The other time Copeland remembers meeting Bush was at the base canteen. Bush was there drinking coffee or a soft drink, Copeland said.

Copeland stressed that Calhoun's account of Bush's service in Montgomery would be accurate because Calhoun was in a position to work with Bush during every drill. Calhoun told The Associated Press last week that he saw Bush every drill time, which was one weekend each month.

Not only was Calhoun in a position to know of Bush's service, Copeland said, but Calhoun "was an ethical and honest officer."

No easy treatment

The suggestion that he or anyone else gave Bush a break because of the family legacy bothers Copeland.

"You hear people saying that everybody (at Dannelly) knew the Bushes. Well, that's just a lie," Copeland said. "He was just another pilot. No one paid any more attention to him than to anyone else. There was no hoopla."

Copeland said Bush trained on an F-106 fighter plane in Texas, so he was not qualified to fly the planes at Dannelly. Dannelly had F-84 Thunderjets and, later, F-4 Phantoms.

The issue of whether Bush skipped his Air National Guard duties is not a new one.

Some Democrats have long questioned whether Bush continued his drills while absent from Texas for Blount's campaign.

Bush Press Secretary Scott McClellan said Friday that the White House is making no effort to locate people who could document Bush's service.

Joe Holcombe, 71, of Joppa worked with Bush on the Blount campaign. He told THE DAILY last week that he remembers Bush missing at least one campaign meeting because of his National Guard drills.

While Copeland said he thinks claims that Bush was AWOL are baseless, he said one thing puzzles him.

"All Bush would have to do to get proof of his Alabama service is pick up the phone and contact military records," he said. "It seems a little odd that he hasn't done that."

Copeland also is puzzled by dental records that Bush produced as evidence of his duties at Dannelly.

"We had no dentist at Dannelly Field," Copeland said. "The only dentists were at Maxwell (Air Force Base)."


19 posted on 09/07/2004 10:18:37 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com/)
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To: alydar

After checking your posting history, I knew you weren't a troll. Part of the problem is that it appears that a chunk of your comment was deleted.

If I may make suggestion, a comment with a bit more detail and a barf alert would help make your motivation clearer.

If this the enemy's strategy, we're in very good shape - it means they have no new ammo.


20 posted on 09/07/2004 10:19:35 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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