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GLOBE: BUSH DIDN'T MEET GUARD COMMITMENTS
drudge ^ | 9/7/04

Posted on 09/07/2004 6:12:59 PM PDT by alydar

President Bush fell well short of meeting his military obligation in the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam War, the BOSTON GLOBE is planning to front on Wednesday, newsroom sources tell DRUDGE.

(Excerpt) Read more at drudgereport.com ...


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To: faithincowboys
It's good to hope for all of that, but I doubt that's how things will go. But I'll pray for that to happen.

What is the downside in your opinion?

121 posted on 09/07/2004 8:04:37 PM PDT by Texasforever (God can send you to hell but he can't sue you. He can't find a lawyer.)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

I am absolutely, positively sure the Bush camp not only is well prepared to revisit this bogus issue, but looking forward to playing yet another card.

I don't know what that card is, but I'm betting it's there.


122 posted on 09/07/2004 8:04:42 PM PDT by keats5
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To: WashingtonSource

The Globe is the same outfit that has one of it's reporters working on Kerry's and the DNC's payroll.


123 posted on 09/07/2004 8:04:43 PM PDT by GLH3IL (What's good for America is bad for liberals.)
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To: soozla

I can give you an example from my own record. I took Firefighter Instructor Training, and that requires a special physical. I completed the training, however I decided NOT to pursue being a Firefighter Instructor (I was needed elsewhere) ...hence I never reported for the next FF Instructor Physical, a much more comprehensive physical (much like a pilot) than for a regular reserve...it was NOT needed.

When Bush stopped flying, he did not need the much longer version of "the hurry up and wait" physical.

If I had run for public office (bite my tongue) they would have accused me of missing my physical.


124 posted on 09/07/2004 8:04:59 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: onyx

Yep I read that earlier and if that is all there is it just shows Bush in a better light than not.


125 posted on 09/07/2004 8:05:51 PM PDT by Texasforever (God can send you to hell but he can't sue you. He can't find a lawyer.)
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To: ldish

FILE AN FOI....tell them that you want Kerry's military records....all of them...and his medical records that relate to that time as well.

Then take those records to the press. Call Newsmax. Call somebody at the New York Post and Washington Times.


126 posted on 09/07/2004 8:06:59 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: Texasforever

Yes, it does, but that won't stop his detractors.
Think the AP will sue for Kerry's records too? LOL!


127 posted on 09/07/2004 8:08:51 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry deserves to be the last casualty of the Vietnam War.)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

HEY! It was seared into his mind don't ya know!! Seared!!

\sarcasm off


128 posted on 09/07/2004 8:11:51 PM PDT by GLH3IL (What's good for America is bad for liberals.)
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To: onyx
Yes, it does, but that won't stop his detractors.

Well let's see, he missed 2 drills between 1968 and 1973 according to that report. Let's concede the point. He still spent more time in uniform active duty than Kerry and there are NO records of Kerry fulfilling his ready reserve commitments after his own early out.

129 posted on 09/07/2004 8:14:48 PM PDT by Texasforever (God can send you to hell but he can't sue you. He can't find a lawyer.)
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To: Texasforever

I think all the MSM outlets will milk this for all its worth. We're 60 days out, it's a tough, tight race and the Left has been successful in making the economy seem like the Great Depression. With the 1,000th death in iraq, things are getting really tight. The MSM is totally in the tank for Kerry. A rehash of Bush's NG, Kitty Kelly's book and Bob Graham's new 'Bush is protecting the Saudis' book (which fits in nicely with Moore's nutty worldview) is a lot to deal with 60 days out. We better have a good strategy.

In addition, I love Cheney, but what he said today in Iowa (thought 150% true) is bad politics.

All in all, we got a lot of crap coming our way.I just hope that the Swiftees keep pounding him and that Team Bush has some firepower to go after this traitor. I really, really don't want him elected.


130 posted on 09/07/2004 8:16:31 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Texasforever
He still spent more time in uniform active duty than Kerry and there are NO records of Kerry fulfilling his ready reserve commitments after his own early out.

Oooooooooooooooh, that's a beautiful FACT.

131 posted on 09/07/2004 8:17:35 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry deserves to be the last casualty of the Vietnam War.)
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To: alydar

I can't imagine why the BOSTON Globe would break this. More beantown flatulence.

:o)

W'04


132 posted on 09/07/2004 8:19:41 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: faithincowboys
I think all the MSM outlets will milk this for all its worth.

Milk what? Missing 2 drills?

133 posted on 09/07/2004 8:20:27 PM PDT by Texasforever (God can send you to hell but he can't sue you. He can't find a lawyer.)
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To: faithincowboys
In addition, I love Cheney, but what he said today in Iowa (thought 150% true) is bad politics.

He just told the truth.

134 posted on 09/07/2004 8:21:16 PM PDT by Texasforever (God can send you to hell but he can't sue you. He can't find a lawyer.)
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To: dwaynestomp
If it comes down to "amiable drunk missed a few weekends" to "arrogant war criminal/coward betrayed his own troops", I'll take Dubya everytime.

OK, I'm gonna play devil's advocate here. Let's say that the President WAS AWOL. How many soldiers died because of it? On the other hand, how many soldiers died because of Kerry's lies about war crimes? I'm waiting for somebody to make this case.

135 posted on 09/07/2004 8:24:02 PM PDT by twhitak
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To: Texasforever

Well, the headline is grabbing. What we must do is make sure that Kerry's files are released. It would also be great if we could get Fox Broadcast channel to run a Swiftee special in the next two months. We need to apply pressure.

In a good way, with Bush's being out, Kerry will have to turn over all of His records. I'd like to know that Kerry was still in Naval reserves when he met with the Vietcong. That interests me a great deal. We need the traitor's records out on the table.


136 posted on 09/07/2004 8:25:33 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: twhitak

When did the draft stop?

And what about Kerry's reserve obligations?? We need Lurch's records. has the MSM made any attemot to get them???

Why do I even ask? of course they haven't.


137 posted on 09/07/2004 8:27:01 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Texasforever

But it is tough. Even the Cheney fans in iowa looked a little uneasy with the comment. I think it was lousy politcs. i admit I argue that to my liberal friends, but it isn't good to say 60 days out.


138 posted on 09/07/2004 8:28:26 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: faithincowboys
In a good way, with Bush's being out, Kerry will have to turn over all of His records. I'd like to know that Kerry was still in Naval reserves when he met with the Vietcong

That is my point. With this out there the Swifties can go about their business and the calls for Kerry's records will increase.

139 posted on 09/07/2004 8:31:40 PM PDT by Texasforever (God can send you to hell but he can't sue you. He can't find a lawyer.)
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To: alydar
The facts concerning Bush's ANG service are spelled out here:

Bush and the National Guard: Case Closed

The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush met his obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year. At that time, Guardsmen were awarded points based on the days they reported for duty each year. They were given 15 points just for being in the Guard, and were then required to accumulate a total of 50 points to satisfy the annual requirement. In his first four years of service, Bush piled up lots of points; he earned 253 points in his first year, 340 in his second, 137 in his third, and 112 in his fourth. For the year from May 1972 to May 1973, records show Bush earned 56 points, a much smaller total, but more than the minimum requirement (his service was measured on a May-to-May basis because he first joined the Guard in that month in 1968).

And here:

F-102, Vietnam, and George W. Bush (Note that this page is taken from a page at aerospaceweb.org that has since been taken down).

It is a common misconception that the Air National Guard was a safe place for military duty during the Vietnam War. In actuality, pilots from the 147th Fighter Interceptor Group, as it was called at the time, were actually conducting combat missions in Vietnam at the very time Bush enlisted. In fact, F-102 squadrons had been stationed in South Vietnam since March 1962.

140 posted on 09/07/2004 8:35:37 PM PDT by Gee Wally
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