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Carville Throws Zell Overboard
Meet the Press | Sixxiron

Posted on 09/07/2004 12:13:33 PM PDT by sixxiron

I posted this late Sunday night and I thought it might get more traffic today. Here is the original post. W 2004!!!

With the new "dream team" of Carville and Begala in place, I thought it worthy of posting Carville's utter throwing away of Zell and his blaming Republicans for making Zell turn on his Dem buddies. Key points: Zell Miller was Carville's former employer and Miller officiated Carville and Matalins wedding!!! There is no bottom for Carville and this marks the beginning of the next phase in the battle for the White House. I wonder if Carl Rove forced Zell into writing a best-selling book which chronicled his disgust with his party more than a year ago.

Here is the transcript from MTP:

MR. RUSSERT: James Carville you ran that man's campaign for governor of Georgia in 1990.

MR. CARVILLE: Right, I did. It's a shame they put that poor man out there in the twilight of his career with a bunch of half-truths. Then they put him on TV after, out there making a fool of himself, and they're showing how he said, "Well, you said Kerry did this." It's the very thing that Dick Cheney recommended. "You said that he called them occupiers." In fact, President Bush had called them occupiers on three separate occasions.

You know, it's a shame, because Senator Miller's had a distinguished mid-career, and I'm very sad for him and the people that work for him that he's going to be remembered, as Joe Klein said, you know, probably the most, you know, hate-filled speech that he's ever seen at a convention. But the problem is, how does a man who sits on this thing, the vice president, who says that we expect to be greeted with roses and you said--you asked him in a follow-up question, "Well, suppose there's insurgents?" He said, "Tim, we don't expect that." How could he possibly, possibly question John Kerry's judgment about being fit to make decisions as a commander in chief?

The record of this administration is already out there. The president has admitted--and when it comes to the war on terror, in June, President Bush said, we can win the war on terror. By August, he had changed his mind and said we can't win the war on terror. So I think there are legitimate questions about judgment. I think there are legitimate questions that don't relate to what happened in Vietnam or not. But they relate to the record of this administration, the miscalculations, the errors and they are all in that report from this royal institute in London, that we've already lost this. We're not going to have a democracy there.

MR. RUSSERT: Mary Matalin, the vice president did say we'd be greeted as liberators, and now, Jim Schlesinger, Republican secretary of defense said that we are unprepared for the insurgency.

MS. MATALIN: We have never, ever, in our history or any history in war, found on the ground plans that went exactly as were planned. It's called the moment of contingency. We have said, the president has said, that the march to Baghdad was completed more expeditiously than had been expected. And it is true that Iraq's become a magnet for all the terrorist, and we do want to fight them there. We don't want to fight them here. And we are winning. This Iraq is in a relatively short period of time on the road to self-government.

MR. RUSSERT: Senator Miller, spitballs, weak, wobbly. Was he over the top?

MS. MATALIN: No, this is--you know, Senator Miller is a man of great passion. If you look at his 1992 keynote Democratic convention speech, he was equally passionate. This is a man who is angry at his party, his party who left him. He is a delightful and loving and wonderful man who officiate at our wedding.

MR. CARVILLE: I love Senator Zell. I'm just so angry at what those cynical Republicans did to him, putting him up. and making him stay stuff that is indefensible.

MS. MATALIN: Well, you know, Senator Miller...

MR. CARVILLE: ...sticking him on TV when he was questioned on it...

MS. MATALIN: Senator Miller, since he's been in office, has been with the president. I saw him regularly on the Hill when I would go up there with the vice president. He was disappointed with his party on economic issues, on these issues of war and peace. He is a wonderful senator. He is a passionate man, brought just as much passion to the Democratic convention in 1992 and these guys just don't like the truth.

MR. RUSSERT: We've got to...

MR. CARVILLE: The difference is when Paul wrote Senator Miller's speech in '92 it was based on fact. When Karl Rove wrote Senator Miller's speech in 2004...

MS. MATALIN: Senator Miller wrote his own speech.

MR. CARVILLE: ...it was based on no fact.

MS. MATALIN: I think I know who wrote Miller's speech.

MR. CARVILLE: You know?

MS. MATALIN: Senator Miller wrote his own speech.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: carville; jamescarville; marymatalin; matalin; sleepingwiththeenemy; turncoat; zell; zellmiller
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To: sixxiron

Since giving his speech, Zell has been called a racist, a segregationist, a pschopathic liar (Lawrence O'Donnell on McLaughlin), and now Carville implies that he is non compos mentis! I have yet to hear any of his detractors refute his statements on a case by case basis.


21 posted on 09/07/2004 12:48:01 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: sixxiron

I wouldn't pay 25 cents to hear Carville, much less $250!


22 posted on 09/07/2004 12:48:56 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan
"I wouldn't pay 25 cents to hear Carville, much less $250!"

I wouldn't pay my own money, but did hear him at a chemical convention a few years ago. I must say, he was very entertaining.

Sad that he is on the dark side. He is smart and has a very good sense of humor.

23 posted on 09/07/2004 12:52:38 PM PDT by drc43 (How dare John Kerry, who never served a day as President, question the actions of President Bush?)
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To: GoLightly

She certainly wears the hair...


24 posted on 09/07/2004 12:54:15 PM PDT by Dawgmeister
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To: sixxiron; All

Here's an unrelated grammar question: If you are referring to a married woman with a different last name, do you use "Ms." as the transcript does, or is it "Mrs."?


25 posted on 09/07/2004 1:04:55 PM PDT by jtminton (<><)
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To: mountaineer
Hello,

I happened to watch this with my in-laws. They are both 72 yrs. old. They did not take kindly to the suggestion made by Carville that Zell had been "duped" by Bush & Co. to make his remarks, based upon his age. What an insult to all of our seniors: sorry, if you say something we disagree with, you must have lost all ability to reason. What a jerk!

Glad to be here, MOgirl
26 posted on 09/07/2004 1:07:01 PM PDT by MOgirl (In memory of Walton Wayne Callahan, I love you forever.)
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To: sixxiron

Looking forward to seeing the wastebasket on carVILE's head.


27 posted on 09/07/2004 1:18:01 PM PDT by smiley (Watch out Dems! I'm a William F. Buckley Conservative!!)
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To: sixxiron
Carville is a joke.....A breathing caricature of himself.

Everything about him is distorted.....He's like a black hole, affecting the orbit of anything that comes close to him.

28 posted on 09/07/2004 1:48:35 PM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: sixxiron

Note in the left photo, the necktie is keeping the foreskin from riding up his neck, as is happening in the right (somebody fed him after midnight) photo.

29 posted on 09/07/2004 2:18:09 PM PDT by MarineBrat
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To: sixxiron

How does the Carville-Matalin marriage survive ?


30 posted on 09/07/2004 3:07:16 PM PDT by happygrl
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