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China: 100+ people die due to heavy rains. Three Gorges dam put on flood alert
BBC On-Line ^ | Tuesday, 7 September, 2004 | staff writer

Posted on 09/07/2004 10:55:28 AM PDT by yankeedame

Last Updated: Tuesday, 7 September, 2004, 09:20 GMT 10:20 UK

At least 100 dead in China floods


The huge city of Chongqing has been badly disrupted

At least 100 people have died in China as a result of heavy rains which have also put the massive Three Gorges hydroelectric system on flood alert. More than 80 other people are missing in south-western Sichuan province after days of rain which local officials described as the heaviest in years.

Landslides and flash floods have destroyed houses and crops and left hundreds stranded.

The heavy rain eased on Tuesday, as rescue teams tried to reach survivors.

China regularly suffers storms and severe flooding in its summer rainy season, and more than 800 people have died due to severe weather this year.

More than 450,000 people have been evacuated and 127,000 homes destroyed or damaged, the China Daily reported.

In Sichuan and nearby Chongqing, entire communities have been marooned.

The worst-affected area is said to be the city of Dazhou, which has been hit with 360mm (14.4 inches) of rain, and has lost all its road links.

"There have been a lot of heavy mudslides and landslides. It is a serious situation in some counties," an official surnamed Liu at the Sichuan disaster relief bureau told the French news agency AFP.

"In Dazhou city there are around 3,000 people trapped by mudslides. In that city around 10,000 are trapped altogether. Local officials and troops are trying to evacuate people in dangerous places," he said.

The Chinese authorities put an initial estimate of the cost of flood damage in the region at hundreds of millions of dollars.

To the east of Sichuan, the massive Three Gorges dam project was closed to shipping for the first time since it began operations earlier this year.

Water flow at the dam has surpassed the warning levels of 45,000 cubic metres per second and is expected to reach 60,000 cubic metres per second on Wednesday, Xinhua said.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; climatechange; dam; threegorges

1 posted on 09/07/2004 10:55:29 AM PDT by yankeedame
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To: yankeedame

That's a big dam!


2 posted on 09/07/2004 10:56:37 AM PDT by spiffy
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To: yankeedame
If only Bush had signed the Kyoto Treaty.

If only Bush had stopped acting provocatively toward the peaceful Chinese, their govt wouldn't have been forced to divert scarce funding from vital flood control resources to wasteful defensive military measures.

/satire

3 posted on 09/07/2004 11:02:54 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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To: yankeedame
That dam is too big, and it will collapse.

My understanding is that it is an earthen damn on questionable geology. It is massive enough, and the water it holds is massive enough, to deform the land it is on. With its height, and therefore its high pressure, a tiny leak caused by the distortions of the foundation, would lead to a catastrophic failure. The dam is simply too much bigger than any other earthen dam ever build to be understood.

It's gonna bust.
4 posted on 09/07/2004 11:11:25 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Born to Conserve
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You mean it isn't solid reinforced concrete ?

Those Chi-Com engineers must be insane.


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5 posted on 09/07/2004 11:15:19 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Born to Conserve

The shell of the dam is rolled in place concrete, not poured into a mold but dumped in a dryer than usual mix from dumptrucks, spread out then steam rolled...layer after layer after layer...leaving muliple horizontal seams throughout the dam.


6 posted on 09/07/2004 11:17:02 AM PDT by Rebelbase (John Kerry, sign form 180 .)
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To: yankeedame

If Three Gorges goes, China will have to rethink their one family one child rule.


7 posted on 09/07/2004 11:22:30 AM PDT by eastforker (Maybe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure what I said is what I meant_John Kerry)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
Those Chi-Com engineers must be insane.

Well, if you read the anti-Three Gorges stuff, if's also a geopolitical hot potato.

It was originally the brainchild of Sun Yat Sen(sp?) in the 1920s, followed by US help in the 1940s, followed by Soviets
in the 1950s...followed by the US in the early 1980s followed by the Canadians in the 1980s...

So, the US helped pick the spot based on the 1940s state-of-the-art dam building info. I would hope they
updated and reconfirmed the spot, given the increase in dam/geological knowledge.

That's the engineering design part of the massive public works project.

Then, you have everybody anxious to promote their EME manufactuers in the project.

If there were unions in the PRC, I'm sure they would be getting their cut.

8 posted on 09/07/2004 11:32:34 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: yankeedame
Wonder how many lives this dam saved during this flood?

Saw a documentary on PBS on this dam whole cities were moved millions of people. only part of the dam was rolled much of it was poured into forms as were the dams in the US. It is not earthen most concerns are if it would hold in an earthquake.
9 posted on 09/07/2004 1:44:00 PM PDT by ImphClinton
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To: spiffy

Just dam.


10 posted on 09/07/2004 1:44:19 PM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Born to Conserve

I read that the reservoir behind the Three Gorges Dam is so gigantic (and so new) that it is actually disrupting that point on its continental plate. Vulcanologists have no idea what the seismic effects might be, because nobody's ever managed to put that much new weight in one place so quickly before.


11 posted on 09/07/2004 1:50:03 PM PDT by SedVictaCatoni (Z '08)
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To: SedVictaCatoni
I can see a day that pieces of the Tree Gorges Dam will be on Ebay.
12 posted on 09/07/2004 1:55:31 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Bong Hits, Fraggle Rock Reruns and DU is no way to go through Life..........)
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To: cmsgop

Previous posts on FR have discussed the many shortcomings of the dam, including 10 ft. fissures that formed in the concrete face of the dam. These fissures were filled in with extra-high strength grout, but they reappeared. It looks like China bought the franchise for Kremlin concrete.

When I visited China, the thing that amazed me most about the newer structures was that they built with steel-reinforced concrete and were all highly over engineered. The new highways were all cracking apart and there was not a true angle to be found.

I recommend holding off on that Yellow River cruise you've been dying to take until the rainy season is over.

If this dam fails, we are looking at the end of communism in China. The dam was supposed to be a symbol of Chicom technological prowess and skill. I don't think Bectel had any part in it. They knew better.


13 posted on 09/07/2004 2:21:44 PM PDT by appeal2
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To: yankeedame

It's a damn big damn, and that damn dam is gonna bust damn it.


14 posted on 09/07/2004 2:26:03 PM PDT by Delbert
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To: appeal2
I recommend holding off on that Yellow River cruise you've been dying to take until the rainy season is over.

Dammit!....and the Kids were so looking forward to it!
15 posted on 09/07/2004 2:58:15 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Bong Hits, Fraggle Rock Reruns and DU is no way to go through Life..........)
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