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Generation X parents outshine Baby Boomers
The Plain Dealer ^ | 9/6/04 | Laura DeMarco

Posted on 09/07/2004 8:49:33 AM PDT by qam1

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To: qam1

Add me to the Xer ping list please.


81 posted on 09/07/2004 12:37:14 PM PDT by Space Wrangler
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To: ClearCase_guy

"They are the worst generation (now I will qualify that by saying, well not all of you are).

Yeah. I think it was.


82 posted on 09/07/2004 12:51:33 PM PDT by Hi Heels
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To: skeeter

I agree. I think the generalizations are silly. The whole Generation X thing was an artificial creation of a pop sociologist. But it seems to have an hypnotic effect on otherwise sound people. It's true there was a marginal element of young people around the sixties that were spoiled brats, but it was always a marginal element. There's some sorry kids in every generation, but it's that minority that gets the attention. I wonder if these people born after 1970 who are trashing the "Boomers" have watched the documentaries of the turbulent 60s and have concluded that the attention-grabbing marginal element was the norm. What's painful for people our age is that we had to grow up enduring and loathing the spoiled counter-culture element in our age and now, years later, younger people are accusing our generation of generally being that which disgusted us when we were growing up.


83 posted on 09/07/2004 12:53:20 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: qam1

Don't think a statement by Abby Hoffman the militant typlifies the boomers......any more than Micheal Moore typlifies the xgen.


84 posted on 09/07/2004 12:54:02 PM PDT by Hi Heels
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To: MaineRepublic

Let's hear it, what differences?


85 posted on 09/07/2004 1:01:00 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Wonderama
That's because you're an Xer not a boomer, no matter what qam says.

Generation X ( jèn´e-rA´shen èks´ ) noun A group of people born between 1961 and 1972 typified by a college education, dissatisfaction with career opportunities, and pessimism. Excerpted from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition

86 posted on 09/07/2004 1:03:53 PM PDT by Melas
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To: cupcakes
Ding Ding Ding......we have a winner!! I think you nailed it. Even though my parents did a fine job rasing me, I think I got most of my values, or at least a sense of values from my grandparents. My mom's dad was a dariy farmer/tractor dealership owner who died a millionaire much to the surprise of all who knew him. My dad's dad was an industrialist/investor, who died a multi-millionaire, but who was one of the most humble people who never wore his wealth at all. Listening to their stories, as well as both my grandmothers stories about living through the depression, well, I can't really explain it......something there just stuck with me.
87 posted on 09/07/2004 1:04:12 PM PDT by Space Wrangler
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
What's painful for people our age is that we had to grow up enduring and loathing the spoiled counter-culture element in our age and now, years later, younger people are accusing our generation of generally being that which disgusted us when we were growing up.

Exactly. Everyone now understands how the MSM twists everything to suit their liberal worldview, yet fail to understand that the MSM of the sixties(members of the 'Greatest Generation' BTW) were doing the same thing thirty five years ago, and at a time when there was no dissenting opinion available.

88 posted on 09/07/2004 1:07:48 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
What's painful for people our age is that we had to grow up enduring and loathing the spoiled counter-culture element in our age and now, years later, younger people are accusing our generation of generally being that which disgusted us when we were growing up.

Instead of enduring and loathing, you should have fought the extreme element. Now it characterizes your generation. It's unfortunate, but true....

89 posted on 09/07/2004 1:20:44 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
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To: Joe Brower

"Interesting. This article describes both my wife and I to a very high degree. Being both born in 1961, we have been continually labeled as "late boomers". This is patently false. We are, without any doubt, "early Gen-Xer"s."

Gee, I can't figure out what we are...I was born in 57, hubby 55. We've always lived within our means, the only debt we have is our mortgage (which is about the size of most peoples' auto loans) and I've been home full time with my kids for the past 15 years. (The oldest of which is a high school senior.) I know we're boomers, but we don't feel like it.


90 posted on 09/07/2004 1:21:52 PM PDT by OldBlondBabe
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To: Melas

Well, I don't like to generalize, as I have not seen every 40-something parent, but it seems to me that a lot of the 40-something parents that have kids my kids' age don't spend half as much time being involved in their kids lives, from volunteering at the school, or clubs or sports. They also seem to be more apt to have a child who has behavioral problems, as they don't seem to have the stomach to enforce limits or follow good discipline suggestions. They are more inclined to find care outside of the home for their kids, not that there is necessarily anything wrong with that, but I've seen enough cases where I can generally tell which kids spent their early childhood in daycare, and which ones had some sort of family care provider.

But like I said, I have not seen every boomer parent, just the ones who have kids that are the same age as my kids.


91 posted on 09/07/2004 1:38:50 PM PDT by MaineRepublic
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Colonel - you've hit the nail on the head. Everytime Qam1 submits one of these Gen-X posts, I feel as though I am being urged to justify my existence or apologize. The "Generation" labels are completely artificial - just another brand of kool-aid that the discontented are all too eager to drink. Don't generalize. And don't pretend it isn't generalization when you excuse the good Boomers from the sins of the bad Boomers. Some of the most selfish people I have ever known are Boomers - the rest are X'ers, and from the Greatest and Silent generations.


92 posted on 09/07/2004 1:48:23 PM PDT by Ol' Sox (Issa u Akbar)
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To: OldBlondBabe
"Interesting. This article describes both my wife and I to a very high degree. Being both born in 1961, we have been continually labeled as "late boomers". This is patently false. We are, without any doubt, "early Gen-Xer"s."

Thank you so much., I've been saying this for years. We are NOT baby boomers. THEY are the pig in the Python, all we got was their waste (kind word for their excrement.)



We are NOT baby boomers. Early Gen-Xers sounds right. I was moshing and was there with the early punk rockers. That isn't the baby boomers. The boomers are Woodstock, Watergate and Haight-Asbury. Its LSD and Timothy Leary, its the Berrigan Brothers and Howard Zinn, most of us werent even alive (really we were babies when these nuts were hitting their stride.)
93 posted on 09/07/2004 1:50:08 PM PDT by N. Beaujon (sera@ix.netcom.com (Does gray matter, matter?))
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To: MaineRepublic
Well, I don't like to generalize, as I have not seen every 40-something parent, but it seems to me that a lot of the 40-something parents that have kids my kids' age don't spend half as much time being involved in their kids lives, from volunteering at the school, or clubs or sports.

What I found fascinating here, is that I find the opposite to be true. I've found that fortysomething parents seem to be involved than the thirtysomething parents I know. More than anything I've seen more parents who've never been married (not divorced) in the younger set.

They are more inclined to find care outside of the home for their kids, not that there is necessarily anything wrong with that, but I've seen enough cases where I can generally tell which kids spent their early childhood in daycare, and which ones had some sort of family care provider.

Of course there is something wrong with that, you can say it. A parent at home is ideal, and nothing can change that. A parent is even preferable to aunts, uncles, or even grandparents. There is absolutely no substitute for parent/child contact. I've stayed home with my children for almost 13 years now. The youngest is 10, so in 8 years, I'll be able to retire from this job and seek employment that actually pays real money.

94 posted on 09/07/2004 1:52:32 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Joe Brower

I agree 100%. I was born in late '63, and I'm definately Gen-X, and not a boomer. The better sources place us in Gen-X as well.


95 posted on 09/07/2004 1:54:40 PM PDT by Melas
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To: rocky88

We threw a party for our now 4 and 6 year-old this weekend, too. Their birthdays are 4 days apart so we combine them. We're going to be eating a lot of grilled cheese and PBJ until the next paycheck comes in!! It's hard not to get too carried away!

I was a teacher until we started our family. I'm at home right now but am finally considering getting back into the work force part-time. 6 years with only one income is finally taking it's toll. Fortunately, my parents just moved back to town and have offered to watch my daughter the 2 days a week that I plan on subbing. I've really enjoyed being at home with my kids and wouldn't change that choice for anything. We're not as well off as those who waited to have kids or chose to have 2 incomes via daycare. However, our kids are very well-behaved, smart, happy and healthy children! The time with them is priceless!


96 posted on 09/07/2004 2:00:43 PM PDT by samiam1972 (Live simply so that others may simply live!)
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To: skeeter

"Heck, the Greatest Generation gave us the welfare state. You simply cannot generalize."

Good point. The reds started all their nonsense long before the outbreak of wwii.... greatest gen indeed.

otoh, you can't really escape generalizations .... they tend to work, though the exceptions are real.


97 posted on 09/07/2004 2:03:24 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: qam1

add me also please


98 posted on 09/07/2004 2:06:41 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: qam1

Ah. Beware the siren song of self-congratulation.


99 posted on 09/07/2004 2:08:48 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Gabz
In fact this article describes my husband (1955) and I (1960) in very many ways. As well as most of our friends.

It describes me also (1961). But it only describes me since I got saved back in 1986. Prior to that I was a typical boomer, self centered, greedy and just looking out for me.

It's amazing the change that finding Jesus (and making Him your Savior) will work in your life.

100 posted on 09/07/2004 2:09:58 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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