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Clashes erupt at Turkey protest (over concessions to Orthodox Christians)
bbc.co.uk ^ | Monday, 6 September, 2004, 09:34 GMT 10:34 UK | BBC

Posted on 09/06/2004 5:11:21 PM PDT by Destro

Last Updated: Monday, 6 September, 2004, 09:34 GMT 10:34 UK

Clashes erupt at Turkey protest

Protesters burned an effigy of the patriarch

Police in Istanbul have clashed with Turkish right-wing demonstrators protesting against what they describe as concessions to Orthodox Christians.

Turkish media said the police used tear gas and batons to disperse hundreds of protesters marching towards the offices of Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I. Earlier on Sunday, the crowd burned his effigy and threw stones at police.

Some nationalists have been angered by the government's decision to allow the reopening of an Orthodox seminary.

The Istanbul seminary, closed by the Turkish authorities in 1971, trained generations of church leaders, including Bartholomew.

EU membership

The BBC's James Ingham says reforms allowing more rights to Orthodox Christians are promoted by a government keen to show it is committed to a secular society as its possible membership of the European Union is being considered.

The EU's commissioner for enlargement, Guenter Verheugen, is beginning a four-day visit to Turkey, to assess whether the country is ready to start entry talks.

The EU has said it is keen to see wider religious freedom ahead of membership talks.

Christians are a minority in Turkey, but Istanbul remains the seat of the Ecumenical Patriarch - who is considered to be the spiritual leader of all Orthodox Christians.

But Nationalist leader Yuksel Kaleci said in a statement that Turkey "is making concession after concession to foreigners and especially to the Patriarchate".

The Patriarchate condemned the "violence" by demonstrators on Sunday. In a statement, it said the protests were the result of "the provocations of people intent on blocking Turkey's EU path".


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: christians; eu; greece; orthodoxchristians; orthodoxy; turkey; turkishchristians
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To: a_Turk; valkyrieanne
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishtar

On monuments and seal-cylinders Inanna/Ishtar appears frequently with bow and arrow, though also simply clad in long robes with a crown on her head and an eight-rayed star as her symbol. This star, joined with the crescent moon, became a symbol of the Ottoman Empire and later of Islam.

41 posted on 09/08/2004 10:40:27 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: a_Turk

I am laughing to think how the Greeks react to opening a mosque in Athens. An appropriate quid pro quo is it not?


42 posted on 09/08/2004 12:13:56 PM PDT by nomoreheroes
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To: Destro; a_Turk
Turkish is related to Korean and Japanese. Barbarian invasions and migrations brought them to the civilized West.

Yes, the article also mentioned an origin myth involving a sun goddess. The Japanese have it too - the myth about descent of the Yamato people from the sun goddess Ameratasu Omikami.

A_Turk, what does Islam say about the origin of the crescent moon and star as Islamic symbols?

43 posted on 09/08/2004 3:56:01 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: valkyrieanne

Nothing that I am aware of in the Koran..


44 posted on 09/08/2004 7:32:40 PM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, Justice, Comitas, Firmitas, Gravitas, Humanitas, Industria..)
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