Posted on 09/06/2004 4:30:54 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
Terrorists who siezed a school in North Ossetia Belsan, September 1 were recieving orders from abroad throughout the three suspense laden days, says Aslanbek Aslakhanov, President Vladimir Putin's adviser for North Caucasian affairs.
'The men had their conversations not within Russia but from other countries. They were led on a leash. Our self styled 'friends' having been working for several decades, I deem, to dismember Russia. They are doing a huge, really titanic job.' (here in Russia)
'It's as clear as daylight that those people are coming up as puppeteers and are financing terror,' he said to the Rossia television company, National Russian Channel 2 tonight.
Though the bandits named certain people they wanted to see as negotiators, and Mr. Aslakhanov was among them, he is sure that the terrorist gang did not mean to talk to whoever they contacted.
Aslanbek Aslakhanov, a Chechen, was on the site throught the tradegy and contacted the gang on the telephone.
'When I spoke Russian with them, I could not make out a word. Speak Russian!' they told me.
'Well, I did as they wished, though I speak Russian with a Caucasian accent, he said in his TV interview.
(Excerpt) Read more at en.rian.ru ...
There needs to be a toilet installed on top of it so the townspeople can do there business.
You wrote:
"my suggestion is put him in the middle of the square inside a bullet proof glass box. let him starve
...fill the box, knee deep, with bacon, ham, pork chops..."
[Asbestos suit DONNED.]
Or put him in a cell with Jesse Dirkhising's rapists.
Make sure they have plenty of bratwurst and sausage.
[Asbestos suit OFF.]
Sounds like my suggestion on an earlier thread,
from Edgar Allan Poe's _The Cask of Amontillado_.
"For the love of God, Montressor."
"Ah yes, for the love of God."
This brings to mind the scene in Die Hard where Alan Rickman, the lead terrorist, is stating his demands to the clueless FBI negotiators. 'Release the Shining Path guerrillas'. One of his fellow terrorists looks dumbfounded and Alan tells him, 'I read about them in Time magazine.' In other words, say anything just to make it sound good, we're not really negotiating.
It really seems like Russia is about to get pulled into this fight in a BIG way. Could fit interestingly into this Bible prophecy passage in Ezekiel 38.
Thus says the Lord GOD: Behold, I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech (Moscow) and Tubal (Tubolsk); 4 and I will turn you about, and put hooks into your jaws, and I will bring you forth, and all your army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed in full armor, a great company, all of them with buckler and shield, wielding swords...
Whole chapter goes into this future invasion by a large army from the far north of Israel... interesting timing in my honest opinion. I don't usually quote scripture, but someone may appreciate the similarities after reading the chapter.
We will all be amazed by the tactics Russia will follow fighting Al Qaeda.
The terrorists and all Muslims are in for a very painful retribution.
7 posted on 09/06/2004 4:38:22 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
I hope that you are right.
But we have the same thing over here.
They are laying low and waiting on the word to act.
Maybe they mean Syria. That would be nice if they wanted to take care of that little problem. Oh, and Iran.
Iran....it has to be Iran..don't they border on some of the mooslime parts of the old Soviet Bloc ?
You wrote:
"The reporting went that these terrorists called the New York Times."
But I thought *international Zionists* ran the US press.
Unless they asked the Times, "Please, somehow. Spin this as Bush's fault..."
You may have a point. There are a lot of Chechen refugees and terrorists in Georgia's Pankisi Gorge. The refugees were trying to escape the fighting and the terrorists hide among them.
The Georgians don't seem to do much about this. Maybe they are afraid of the terrorists or maybe bought off. I don't know.
01 Sep 04
.
OFFICE OF NAVAL INTELLIGENCE
CIVIL MARITIME ANALYSIS DEPARTMENT
WORLDWIDE THREAT TO SHIPPING
MARINER WARNING INFORMATION
.
(...)
F. MEDITERRANEAN-BLACK SEA: .
.
1. GEORGIA: On 4 Aug Georgian press stated President
Saakashvili issued an order to sink all ships attempting to enter
Sukhumi port, Abkhazia, without Georgian government permission.
A 6 Aug announcement named the Bolivian flag, Russian-owned 1,408-
ton cargo ship (IZABELLA) as having been fired on. Although other
ships have been detained for unloading cargoes in Sukhumi without
Georgian clearance as long as two years prior to their detention,
the current campaign seems primarily aimed at passenger craft
carrying Russian tourists into Sukhumi. As of 18 Aug authorities
report no further shooting despite continued tension, and Georgian
officials claim the illegal traffic has practically ceased,
although one Russian vessel may have gotten through. On 26 Aug
Georgian authorities asked Russian counterparts to warn shipping
not to enter the waters off the coast of Abkhazia without
coordination with Georgia (INFO).
The Bear is awake...
Them's fightin' words! Thanks for providing those details.
Official Perspective of FSB on Terrorist Attack followed by Putin's speech about it.
http://en.rian.ru/rian/index.cfm?prd_id=160&do_alert=0&msg_id=4812030
2004-09-06 13:52 * RUSSIA * NORTH OSSETIA * SITUATION *
POWER STRUCTURES REPORT DETAILS OF BESLAN ATTACK
VLADIKAVKAZ, September 6 (RIA Novosti) - Authorities have reported details of the Beslan attack.
"Destabilization of the situation must be avoided by all means," said Sergei Fridinsky, deputy prosecutor general for the Southern Federal District.
The gang had 32 members. Bodies of 30 bandits were found and one terrorist captured. Another gunmen was torn apart by explosion, Fridinsky said.
According to him, the gang was "international": it included Chechens, Tatars, Kazakhs, Koreans.
The national belonging of the school attackers will be announced in news programs of North Ossetian TV and radio.
As they were approaching the school, the bandits were stopped by a policeman who tried to detain them. They captured the policemen, but he managed to flee in bustle, Fridinsky said.
Deputy Interior Minister Chekalin confirmed that the gang had two women. "They were blown up, the fragments of their bodies are being collected," deputy minister said.
Those who ordered the terrorist attack will be identified and named soon, an FSB officer said.
A total of 96 families will bury their 114 relatives, Chekalin said.
An engineer group will provide security at the funeral. The cemeteries are guarded. Reserve forces to provide for security of the funeral have been delivered to the area, deputy minister said.
Chekalin added that the resignation of North Ossetia's interior minister Kazbek Dzantiev had not been accepted.
The FSB officer said the special forces officers killed during the hostage taking would be buried on Tuesday.
http://en.rian.ru/rian/index.cfm?msg_id=4811815
2004-09-06 13:13
ADDRESS BY VLADIMIR PUTIN IN THE WAKE OF EVENTS IN BESLAN
MOSCOW, September 5 (RIA Novosti) - On September 4, President of Russia Vladimir Putin made a televised address in connection with the tragedy in the North Ossetian town of Beslan.
Below is the full text of the President's address:
"It is difficult to speak and it is bitter.
"A terrible tragedy has occurred on our territory. Over these last few days each of us has been suffering deeply and passing through his heart all that was happening in the Russian town of Beslan. We faced not only murderers but those who used weapons against defenseless children.
"And now I am addressing, first of all, with the words of support and compassion, people who have lost the most valuable in their life: their children and their near and dear ones.
"I am requesting to recall all those who have been killed by terrorists in the past days.
"There were a lot of tragic pages and hard events in the history of Russia. We are living in the conditions that have emerged after the collapse of the huge and great state, the state, which had proved to be non-viable in the conditions of the rapidly changing world.
"However, despite all the difficulties, we have been able to keep the nucleus of this giant, the Soviet Union. And we called the new country the Russian Federation.
"We all expected changes, changes for the better.
"However, we have proved to be absolutely unprepared for many changes in our life. Why?
"We are living in the conditions of a transitional economy that does not correspond to the condition and the level of the development of society and the political system.
"We are living in the conditions of exacerbated internal conflicts and inter-ethnic contradictions, which were previously toughly quelled by the ruling ideology.
"We have stopped paying due attention to the issues of defense and security and allowed corruption to pervade the judicial and law-enforcement spheres.
"Apart from that, our country, which once had the most powerful system of defending its external borders, suddenly turned out to be unprotected either from the West or the East.
"It will take many years and billions of rubles to create new, modern and really protected borders.
"However, in this respect, we would have been more effective, if we acted in time and more professionally.
"In general, we have to admit that we did not pay due attention to the complexities and dangers of the processes going on in our country and in the world.
"In any case, we couldn't adequately react to them. We showed weakness and the weak get beaten.
"Some want to tear away a more delicious slice from us and others are helping them. They are helping them in belief that Russia, as one of the largest nuclear powers, still poses a threat to them and, therefore, this threat has to be eliminated.
"And terrorism is, of course, only an instrument for attaining such goals.
"As I spoke on many occasions, we were confronted with crises, mutinies and terrorist acts many times. What happened was a terrorist act that was inhuman and unprecedented in its cruelty. It is a challenge not to the President, the parliament and the government but a challenge to all of Russia and to all of our people.
"This is an attack on our country.
"Terrorists think that they are stronger than we are and that they can frighten us by their cruelty and that they will be able to paralyze our will and disintegrate our society. And it would seem that we are faced with a choice: we either fight them off or agree with their demands, surrender and let them destroy and tear apart Russia in the hope that they will leave us alone.
"As the President and the head of the Russian state, as the person who vowed to protect the country, its territorial integrity and simply as a citizen of Russia, I am convinced that in reality we simply have no choice. This is because once we allow ourselves to be blackmailed and abandon ourselves in panic, we shall plunge millions of people into the endless string of bloody conflicts, like the Karabakh, Transdniestrian and other similar tragedies. We cannot fail to see obvious.
"We are dealing not with separate intimidation actions or separate terrorists' raids. We are dealing with the direct intervention of international terror against Russia, with a total, cruel and all-out war, which is claiming time and again the lives of our compatriots.
"The entire world experience shows that such wars, unfortunately, do not end quickly. In these conditions, we simply cannot and must not live as light-heartedly as before.
"We are simply obliged to create a more effective security system and demand that our law-enforcement bodies act at a level adequate to the level and scope of the new threats.
"But the main thing is that the nation should mobilize in the face of a common threat. The events in other countries show that terrorists are fought off most effectively precisely where they are confronted not only with the might of a state but with an organized and consolidated civil society.
"Respected fellow citizens!
"Those who sent the bandits to commit this horrible crime had the aim to bring our peoples against each other, scare the citizens of Russia and unleash a bloody interethnic strife in the North Caucasus.
"In this connection, I would like to say about the following:
"First.
"A set of measures aimed at strengthening the country's unity will be prepared shortly.
"Second.
"I believe it necessary to create a new system of the interaction of means and forces that exercise control over the situation in the North Caucasus.
"Third.
"It is necessary to create an effective anti-crisis management system, including fundamentally new approaches to the activity of the law-enforcement bodies.
"I want to stress that all these measures will be carried out in full compliance with the country's Constitution.
"Dear friends, we are living through very hard and sorrowful hours. And I would like to thank all those who showed restraint and civil responsibility.
"We were and we shall be stronger than they both with our morale and courage and our human solidarity. I saw that again this night.
"In Beslan, literally saturated with grief and pain, people cared and supported each other even more.
"They were not afraid risking their lives for the sake of the life and calmness of others.
"Even in the most inhuman conditions, they remained humans.
"It is hard to get reconciled with the pain of losses. But the trials have brought us together and have made us revalue a lot.
"Today we must be together. Only in this way can we defeat the enemy."
The Revelation stuff is interesting, and I know people have their little charts, but having studied (and I mean studied) the Bible for more than 20 years and examined closely many of the major "end times" theories, I don't think anyone yet has the right (i.e., God's) interpretation of what all this means.
No doubt some cash at least was helpful from the pockets of both Soros and Brzezinsky, both of whom would love to see Russia on her knees.
Good point. We will have to see how events unfold, still a lot of prophecy in the Bible to be completed.
How about George Soros? Doesn't he have many "philanthropic" interests going on over there?
Of course, I'm trying to think beyond the lines of Muslim terrorists. Somehow the way they mention "abroad" just sounds a bit fishy to me. Who else is questing for world domination?
You're thinking the same way I am.
We would think Basayev would be in ikcheria but then who knows?
Really, I would give a lot to know who the phone calls were made to.
Weren't there also phone calls made from the theatre/Moscow siege? Anyone recall what the outcome of that was?
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