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11 Members of Congress Sign 'Fire Boykin' Letter (CAIR deals with the real issues)
C A I R ^ | 9/2/04 | CAIR

Posted on 09/06/2004 10:16:02 AM PDT by NotchJohnson

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To: NotchJohnson

Screw Those Rats.


21 posted on 09/06/2004 10:30:13 AM PDT by Fast1
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To: muawiyah

"When you have government officials making complaints about someone else "..invoking religion in an inflammatory and inappropriate way .." one wonders when it was the government established what the non-inflammatory and most appropriate way to invoke religion might be."

Especially when they're made in a church


22 posted on 09/06/2004 10:33:08 AM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: xJones

And these congresspeople have a problem with the General saying that radical muslims don't like America?


23 posted on 09/06/2004 10:35:17 AM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: cripplecreek

aparently these congressional 'reprentitives' forgot to read the first ammendment.

"Congress shall make no law establishing religion, or PROHIBITING the free exercise thereof".

(I'm paraphrasing)


24 posted on 09/06/2004 10:35:32 AM PDT by Bigh4u2
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To: Bigh4u2

Sorry about the spelling

"representitives"


25 posted on 09/06/2004 10:36:17 AM PDT by Bigh4u2
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To: NotchJohnson

The dicpicable Bawney Fwank is not on the list...


26 posted on 09/06/2004 10:36:35 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Bigh4u2

Sheesh.

And I STILL spelled it wrong.

"representatives".

Need to use 'spell check' more often.


27 posted on 09/06/2004 10:37:06 AM PDT by Bigh4u2
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To: hosepipe

Must have been a 'minor' oversight.


28 posted on 09/06/2004 10:37:41 AM PDT by Bigh4u2
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To: NotchJohnson

Do you know the difference between Barney Franks and Fenway Franks?

The buns they come in.


29 posted on 09/06/2004 10:38:01 AM PDT by Beckwith (Kerry is out of kontrol . . .)
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To: hosepipe

"eleven members of Congress, led by Rep. Barney Frank..."
"The other honorable signatories included ..."


30 posted on 09/06/2004 10:40:13 AM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: NotchJohnson

I shake my head in wonder at these clowns.


31 posted on 09/06/2004 10:40:25 AM PDT by SeeRushToldU_So (Shut up and sing. I don't care what you think.)
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To: cripplecreek
"All the usual suspects"

My thoughts exactly!

32 posted on 09/06/2004 10:41:02 AM PDT by fhillary2 (Native Virginian)
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To: NotchJohnson

CAIR needs to be exposed for what they really are (supporters of extreme islam). I have not yet heard CAIR condemn the airliner downings, car bomb, or school hostage fiaso in Russia. CAIR needs to be shut down and 99% of its members deported from the United States ASAP.


33 posted on 09/06/2004 10:41:22 AM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: cripplecreek
All with constituencies that are pockets of domestic pestilence within our society. May they all rot.


34 posted on 09/06/2004 10:41:49 AM PDT by Viking2002
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To: NotchJohnson; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; B4Ranch; TrueBeliever9; Geist Krieger; JohnHuang2; ...
Onward Muslime Soldiers - ping.

C.A.I.R. (with the assistance of distinguished Democratic congressmen and senators) goes for the jugular of one of America's finest. They want to make an "example" out of General Boykin and if they get their way just wait and see what comes next.

Before you flame me on General Boykin speaking against Islam while in uniform, let it be said that I agree that particular platform was inappropriate - he should not have been in uniform when he said it. But I won't apologize to Islam for what he said about it being our Number One Enemy.

(Islam won't rest until they occupy the White House?)

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"Now that investigation has demonstrated what has been clear to many of us all along – namely that General Boykin should not serve as a high intelligence officer of the U.S. government. We find his judgment to be severely lacking on many counts. The offense he has given to hundreds of millions of Muslims in the world clearly can only exacerbate many of the problems we face…"


35 posted on 09/06/2004 10:42:12 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Jihad - coming to a school near you.)
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To: NotchJohnson

"The 10-month internal investigation, conducted by the department's deputy inspector general for investigations, confirmed news accounts that Boykin said in his speeches that President Bush had been placed in his post by God, that radical Muslims hate America because it "will never abandon Israel" and that the U.S. military is recruiting a spiritual army that will draw strength from a greater power to defeat its enemy. "

I don't see anything wrong with his statements.

He did NOT attack "all" Muslims, he talked about the radical ones -- well, the terrorists are the ones who keep committing terrorist acts, which includes massacring little children, all "in the name of Allah".

The Muslims should be directing their anger at the terrorists.


36 posted on 09/06/2004 10:48:13 AM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: FairOpinion

"The Muslims should be directing their anger at the terrorists."

Exactly!! But they won't because they support the terrorists both in sprit and financially. CAIR needs to be investigated thoroughly and shut down. After they are dealt with, the voters need to purge the 11 communists in Congress who signed the Boykin letter. We need to take the war on terror to our own shore also if we are going to win.


37 posted on 09/06/2004 10:51:23 AM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: nuconvert
COMMENTS
The Truth About General Boykin’s Comments on Islam
By Paul Strand
Washington Sr. Correspondent
October 30, 2003

Chuck Holton, a former Army Ranger who has covered adventure stories for CBN, recently heard Boykin at a church service in Maryland. Holton served under Boykin in Somalia.

CBN.com – WASHINGTON, D.C. — Lieutenant General William Boykin is under siege for comments he made during speeches at various churches. Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have criticized the decorated combat veteran for alluding to the war on terror as a religious struggle. Even the President has distanced himself from Boykin.

But Boykin's defenders say the General's comments have been taken out of context. To find out what all the fuss is about, CBN News decided to take a closer look at General William Boykin and the comments that have gotten him into so much trouble.

Critics blast Boykin for saying God picked George W. Bush to be President, for stating we are in a war of good versus evil with Satan backing the terrorists, and for saying radical Muslims hate America because it is a nation of believers.

Chuck Holton, a former Army Ranger who has covered adventure stories for CBN, recently heard Boykin at a church service in Maryland. Holton served under Boykin in Somalia.

"He's one of the most highly-decorated soldiers in the military today, and has been in every conflict known and unknown since Desert One back in 1979," Holton said.

Holton brought us an audio copy of Boykin's sermon. Here is what the General says, in context, about America being a nation of believers and a backer of Israel:

"Why do they hate us so much? I will tell you this. This is my own personal belief. One of the most fundamental reasons they hate us is (a) because we are a nation of believers, and (b) because we support Israel. Now, if you don't believe that this nation was founded on Christian beliefs, Christian values, then go back and read the writings and the orations of the founders of this nation, read what they said. Every man that signed the Constitution of the United States was of the Christian faith."

Holton said, "And he made it very clear by specifically saying that what he was talking about was his own personal beliefs. He was not speaking for the military or for the government or anything like that."

As for Boykin's comment that God picked Bush to be President, here's why the General says that:

"This is not a political speech. I am in fact apolitical. But why is George W. Bush in the White House? …You must recognize that we as Americans saw a miracle unfold with the election of George W. Bush. Whether you voted for him or not is irrelevant. The fact is he is there today not only to lead America, but to lead the world, and that is what he is doing. Where does he start his day? He starts his day in the Oval Office at 4:30 with a Bible in his hand."

The media has insinuated that Boykin is saying America's military is God's army and that the radical Muslims are Satan's army. But hearing him in context, it becomes clear what Boykin sees as God's army is Christians on their knees praying for the Lord's mercy and His will.

And does Boykin state radical Muslims are Satanic, like the media has suggested? Here is what the General actually says about the likes of Osama bin Laden:

"We as Americans, we as Christians, need to understand that that's not the enemy that America's up against. In fact, the enemy that we're up against is called the principality of darkness, he's called Satan. We are in fact in a spiritual battle, ladies and gentlemen, more than we are in a physical battle."

And even if Boykin does imply we are in a religious war, Holton said, "The extreme element in Islam has no question that this is a war of religion, that this is a religious war. It is only the United States that has attempted to not be inflammatory in its rhetoric. And there was nothing in the speech that I heard General Boykin give that was inflammatory towards Muslims at any point."

Source:
CBN report on Boykin Speech

38 posted on 09/06/2004 10:54:44 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: xJones
"you can see why liberals can't stand him" "To frame things in terms of good and evil, with the United States as good, is a nonstarter," Zogby said. "It is exactly the wrong thing to do." - cited website.

In the liberal world the only evil is those that stand up for good.

39 posted on 09/06/2004 10:59:24 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: cripplecreek; thoughtomator; NotchJohnson; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; B4Ranch; TrueBeliever9; ..
A brief note on C.A.I.R. tactics . .

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Lies, Misinformation and CAIR
By Evan McCormick
FrontPageMagazine.com | August 1, 2003


It has become something of an annual tradition.  Every year, the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) releases a civil rights report that documents cases of anti-Muslim discrimination in America.  Every year, CAIR reports an increase in the number of such cases.  And every year, these claims are supported by questionable information and statistical manipulation.

Recently, however, the reports have taken on a new dimension.  Instead of simply arguing that discrimination is on the rise, CAIR has sought to identify the Bush administration as the culprit in this trend.  This year's report, for example, related a 15% increase in hate crimes to, the U.S. Government's continuing reaction to the terrorist attacks of September 11th.

Vilifying the Bush administration has been CAIR's modus operandi since the September 11th terrorist attacks.  No aspect of the war on terror has escaped criticism by the Council's media machine.  The 2002 civil rights report, titled Stereotypes and Civil Liberties was CAIR's first formal attempt to portray the backlash against Muslim Americans after September 11 as an outgrowth of policies that the administration established to bring terrorists and their financiers to justice.  

Stereotypes and Civil Liberties followed the standard CAIR civil rights report blueprint.  It documented hundreds of unsubstantiated claims of discrimination and harassment suffered by Muslims, grouping together the truly heinous with the outright ridiculous, and placing all of the blame on the Federal Government.  Where the 2002 report differed from previous CAIR reports was a section titled, September 11 Anti-Muslim Incidents, which was confined to the time period immediately following the 2001 attacks.  For statistical purposes, these 1,717 instances were excepted from the yearly total. 

For such a large assertion, one might expect CAIR to present supporting evidence, but they did not.  Although the number of backlash incidents in 2001 were more than three times higher than incidents during the rest of the year, not one account or example was given.

The introduction explained that a different collection methodology was applied to the post-September 11 backlash calculation, by which individual violations were counted instead of incidents.  Thus, the introduction states, a single report of hate violence and harassment may include more than one instance.  Without a shred of evidence, we will can know what liberties CAIR took in totaling singular instances in order to arrive at its massive total. 

What is even more alarming than CAIR's specious reasoning is its conclusion that the Bush Administration and its anti-terror policies are singularly responsible for the alleged 1,717 anti-Muslim incidents. For instance, the CAIR report, while initially praising the President's efforts to verbally distinguish between ordinary Muslims and the September 11th attackers, also alleged that, since that initial period of support, a number of government policies have singled out American Muslim organizations and immigrants from Muslim countries.

The suspect policies include the USA Patriot Act of 2001, the detention of illegal immigrants, the closure of Muslim charities suspected of raising funds and diverting them to terror organizations, raids on the homes and businesses of suspected terrorist supporters, and voluntary interviews with legal visa-holders.  The reader should not be fooled into believing that CAIR is protesting these policies merely in the name of civil rights, for in the report, CAIR specifically defends several groups that have been targeted by government action.

For example, the report stated that the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF) had its assets frozen in December of 2001 for its suspected support of the terrorist group Hamas and deemed a terrorist organization by the U.S. State Department.  In defense of the group, CAIR stated that, HLF has insisted that its social and health services have been extended to assist Palestinian orphans, widows, and poor persons irrespective of political views.¡¨  CAIR made no mention of the investigation of the HLF that had been ongoing since 1996, nor of public statements by officials involved in the operation regarding the charity's support of Hamas.  HLF's claim of innocence was enough to elicit CAIR's condemnation of the administration's actions and it even compelled CAIR to denounce the investigation as  a religiously motivated act of discrimination.  In January of 2003, a three-judge panel of the US Court of Appeals ruled that the Treasury Department had acted appropriately and with overwhelming evidence in freezing the group's assets.  CAIR's allegiances, it would seem, are misplaced.

What effect does this campaign of misinformation produce?  By convincing moderate Muslims that they are being targeted unfairly by the Bush administration's policies, CAIR incites fear among members of that demographic.  If innocent Muslims are then convinced that they will be the target of government action, then they have no incentive to reject an extremist ideology that resists the government's anti-terror policies.  Not coincidentally, it is CAIR that provides this political outlet.  This is the essence of CAIR's strategy: shock moderate Muslims about the motivations of the U.S. Government, turn them into post-911 victims, and then recruit them as supporters for your political agenda when they are ripe for the taking.

Perhaps it would do us well to ask who CAIR seeks to reach with their civil rights reports.  We can immediately rule out terrorists and those who illegally support terrorists in this country, for they are fully aware of their actions, and discrimination by the government is the least of their worries.  We may also discount current officials and members of CAIR, for they are so devoted to the group's anti-administration stance that the results revealed in the report are unlikely to do anything but further entrench their views.  Finally, non-Muslim political sympathizers are certainly welcomed by CAIR, but there is little evidence in the report to suggest they are targeted directly.

CAIR's target audience is the relatively apolitical, possibly even non-practicing Muslims and Arab-Americans who have given little thought to what effect the war on terror has on their everyday lives.  This audience is immensely large.  Between 2002 and 2003, CAIR fielded discrimination complaints from 602 individuals; .0086% of the 7 million Muslims that CAIR estimates live in America.  This means that an overwhelming majority of Muslims (not to mention Arab-Americans) have not been affected negatively by the administration's successful efforts so far to root out terror.

That the number of unnecessarily affected Muslims is so small is surely a sign of success in the war on terror and a testament to our national character.  Individual acts of violence and harassment have been few and far between, and met with appropriate justice.  To CAIR however, the 99.9% of unaffected Muslims represents fertile ground from which to seek support, and in order to do so, they must be instilled with the idea that have become innocent victims. 

Any American Muslims who are truly worried about guilt by association (the title of the latest CAIR report) should take notice of some of CAIR's most notable associations.  For example, CAIR was formed in 1994 by two former officials of the Islamic Association for Palestine, a group acknowledged by former FBI counter-terrorism chief Oliver Revell as a front for the Palestinian terrorist group, Hamas.  One of the original founders, Executive Director, Nihad Awad, has stated plainly, I am in support of the Hamas movement,¡¨ and Communications Director Ibrahim Hooper has defended Saudi financial support of Palestinian suicide bombers.

Several CAIR officials have been arrested for their alleged support of terrorist activity within the United States.  Former CAIR Civil Rights Coordinator Randall Todd Ismail Royer was recently arrested for his role in fighting with and recruiting for the Pakistani terrorist group Lashkar-e-Toiba.  Bassem M. Khafagi, arrested in January for his involvement with terrorist finance group the Islamic Association of North America, was a Community Affairs Director for CAIR at the time of his arrest.  Finally, Ghassan Elashi, arrested in December of 2002 for dealing in the property of a designated terrorist, was a founder of the Holy Land Foundation and a member of the founding board of Directors of CAIR-Texas.   

While violent attacks and individual discrimination against Muslims are very serious matters, CAIR's civil rights reports have done more to incite hysteria among peaceful Muslims than address to the problems directly.  Muslims who are not involved in criminal or terrorist activity should remain unfazed by CAIR's disingenuous reporting and take careful note of its political motives.  Those who do not, and subscribe unwittingly to CAIR's political agenda will do so at the expense of the protection that the administration has sought to provide to all American citizens in the midst of a domestic threat unlike any we have faced before.¡¦ Evan McCormick is the Henry M. Jackson National Security Fellow at the Center for Security Policy in Washington, DC.  He is a recent graduate of Boston University.

40 posted on 09/06/2004 11:01:26 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Jihad - coming to a school near you.)
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